BillsFan4

Very.

Seems to me like the goal should be improving upon our current starting QB, not just finding a starting QB period.

Same here. That's all that really matters at this point. I loved the trade down. Thought it was definitely the right move for the Bills.

Let them laugh. History is definitely NOT on their side. Take a look at trades into the top 10 for QBs over the last 17 years. There's maybe 1 that worked out well - Michael Vick way back in 2000 (before mobile QBs were popular. That trade may not even happen today). Other than that, it's hard to point to another trade into the top 10 that worked out. Sanchez? LOL

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/the-comprehensive-guide-to-10-years-of-first-round-trades/ Here's a comprehensive list for all 1st round trades over the last 10 years. Compare away.

As of now, I'd say that Darnild, Rosen, Allen all look to have a legitimate shot at being pretty good NFL QBs. I'd say Falk too. And Raymond looks like a wild card. A lot can change in a year though. We will just have to wait and see I guess... But as of now it looks like a strong class. Let's hope it stays that way as next season plays out.

Here's an good read for anyone interested. It's a comprehensive list of all 1st round trades the last 10 years. It tells basically every detail of the trade too. It's interesting to see how the value we got stacks up against other trades. http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/the-comprehensive-guide-to-10-years-of-first-round-trades/

I had never heard that. May I ask where you learned that? I've always read that next year's draft picks are valued roughly the same as this year's. Even the draft value chart I have says that right on the top - http://www.newerascouting.com/nfl-draft-trade-value-chart/

Very well said. It amazes me the people who say with such certainty that a college QB prospect will be some elite franchise guy. NFL teams spend $100's of thousands of dollars and countless man hours (between multiple professional scouts, GMs, front office execs etc who all do this for a living) evaluating these players, and yet every year we see so many of these teams miss and the QBs bust. Nobody knows anything for certain about these QBs. If they did, they'd be very rich, like you said.

It's happened before, where lots of QBs went high and didn't do crap in the NFL. Look at 2011 QB draft for example. Only time will tell. Could be a good QB draft or could be a bunch of busts. Just because they went in the top 12 doesn't really mean much of anything at this point.

Id actually kind of like Another trade down. Pick up an extra 2nd + more.

I am still all pumped up about the trade back. I feel like we may actually have a coach who is thinking about more than just this year and legitimately wants to build something good in Buffalo. He's doing the best thing for the Bills, and not just for himself. What a difference from Rex, huh?

What did Cleveland get? I still haven't seen ESPN show it, unless I missed it while posting on here.

Hey, let's all just hope Alex Smith is so disgruntled that he ends up sucking next season and KC picks top 15. It could happen... lol

I can't believe how many people are so upset with the trade up. Sure, an extra 2nd would have been ideal. But I like the trade. And I'll Love it next year! I wouldnt even mind seeing the Bills trade back from 27!

has to be IMO

http://www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/games/draft-pick-value.php Pretty sure It uses that Jimmy Johnson draft pick value chart. Has the Bills pick worth 1300, and assuming the Chiefs pick 27th again next year, had their picks valued at 1496. So just shy of 200 points.

We made out in draft value. Even if we get the 27th overall pick next year, we come out about 200 points ahead on the draft value chart. Mahomes to KC. Interesting. Wonder if Alex Smith will be available next season?

Wait, what? 2 first round picks from KC? Or you mean they gave us their 1st plus we have our own 1st next year?

We better be getting a good haul of picks here. Hoping for a 2018 1st!

Hooker please please please

Ah! I'm getting nervous now...! Hurry up already

Yes!! We either have a damn good player fall to us, or we get a damn nice haul in a trade down. Right? I mean, it's still the Bills. Don't F this up.

This is not the way I expected the top 10 to go, that's for sure.

I think you're wrong but I guess we will see up close and personal this season, huh? The one thing I will say that there's no doubt McCown is better at - landing teams a 1st overall pick! lol