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My eye test with Barkley in a Bills uni says different. The Bills have a very good secondary to practice against. Where are the Barkley INT's? Where were they last season in regular season play? Or this preseason? I think its easy to look at a young QB with only 12 NFL games played and say he sucks. I've seen as many strong armed QB's fail in the NFL because they can't throw with anticipation or touch as QB's that fail from lack of sufficient arm strength. I think the answer might be somewhere in the middle, With all due respect thy Dog...

I respectfully disagree Myself personally, arm strength is a bit overrated and the fraction of a second difference between 50 and 60 mph throws can be made up with faster read and react time/decisiveness IMO. Also throwing trajectory with more of an arc in many instances proves more beneficial then a straight line trajectory especially for shorter QB's. In my humble opinion Kelly.

Not much info on Barkleys actual velocity and it would not surprise me If he has gotten stronger over time. Eye test tells me Matt Barkley is making all the throws. ( In a Bills uni) Fitz doesn't have enough arm strength to throw with good zip without using his whole body on the throw.( IMO ) Myself personally, I think Barkley uses much better throwing mechanics resulting in better accuracy.

Thanks for the reply/ update on McCarron and Anderson. Myself personally, I think mismanagement of the Oline started the whole mess. The bright side is Allen is a season ahead of schedule. (from where I thought he would be anyway) I like your reasoning...

12 starts spread out over 4 seasons which is no way to develop properly IMO. Matt Barkley just needs experience in my humble opinion Biscuit. Myself personally, One season under your belt (game experience) is when a young QB prospect will start seeing the game slow down. Which would be right about now for both Barkley and Allen IMO.

Anderson or McCarron come to mind. Moore was just picked up recently and is a 500 QB. (example) My point is ideally Barkley will never play in a regular season game. A healthy Josh Allen allows Buffalo the time to get a FA up to speed in the Daboll O IMO. If the trade value for Barkley becomes high enough I would expect Beane to pull the trigger in my humble opinion

Jackson > Peterman I'm just saying...

One of the best days the Bills O had last season from a passing perspective was with Matt Barkley behind center. Regular season... I think we can both agree 12 career game starts does not a QB make.

Barkley was a highly coveted young QB prospect at one point in time. Luck is impossible to replace, but I could see the Colts fan base getting behind a guy like Matt Barkley. Don't get me wrong, keeping Barkley long term sets well with me. Beane on the other hand has shown If he can get good trade value on a player that he can replace via FA. Anythings possible...

When someone wants to trade a 1st ...

Well done.

Ditto, On the career QB rating I think you might find many QB's 1st 16 games ever played in the NFL that went on to have successful careers as a starter didn't have a sparkling rating within that time frame. With all due respect C.Biscuit97

Nice comparison though Shady, stocking shelves at $ 5.50 an hour. Is it an exception to the rule, absolutely, but there are exceptions. thanks

Hey man, Its almost time for take off, We need to get into regular season boasting / posting form. Saying Montana and Barkley were both considered to have noodle arms coming out of college is probably not the kind of comparison Matt Barkley would be proud of in my humble opinion Biscuit.

Joe Montana was tagged the same way once upon a time... ... I'm just saying...

This just in, Barkley is running the Daboll O more effectively then Allen right now and probably does give Buffalo a better ability (not chance) to win football games at this point in time IMO. Matt Barkley is seeing the field well, decisive, throwing with anticipation and accuracy. So decisive the supposed to low of velocity throws have been a non factor on the football field in my humble opinion Biscuit. The Buffalo Bills are in the process of developing the 1st franchise QB they have had in almost 2 decades. Josh Allen came out of college about as raw as you can get. It takes time to develop him and its not happening overnight. So for folks that want to call Allen a bust for one bad play, or even one bad game , get real, he has less then a full season of games under his belt. As does Barkley...

Hopefully our Oline is 10x better The play of Matt Barkley as a Buffalo Bill has impressed the hell out of me. Big, big fan of Josh Allen...

I'm with you BuffaloBillies, We've been Jilted for far to long...

I think you need to be a member to make the link work properly my friend.

I think If the Topic description looks more like a normal thread topic it may be more appealing to open and enter into a discussion at 1st glance. For instance If Ed Oliver was a stand out on preseason game 3 title the topic description " Ed Oliver shines/ Defense Discussion" Start the thread intro with a brief run down on his performance. It gives the discussion a place to start. Just a thought...

I like it, The regular season is sure to increase online poster activity here at TBD. I think its user friendly on gameday and helps prevent duplicate thread starts on the same line of discussion.

Andrew Lucks retirement was sad for me. I'm sure many felt the same way. So much potential. So many unanswered dreams. Myself personally, I've never been more sure about a player destined for greatness coming out of college then Andrew Luck. Lets not have this happen to our prodigy...

thats what I'm thinking Tcali, J A has lots of weapons around him now with good protection, (good advice on the sidelines) MERCY!!! This New Era Buffalo Bills football team packs a punch!!!

Matt Barkley has been in the league long enough he has learned to take what the oppositions D gives you. Barkley is decisive, throwing with good anticipation and accuracy. So decisive his lower velocity throws have become a non factor IMO. I say all this not as a knock on Allen, but as a compliment to the QB position because If Josh Allen can learn to play in the Daboll system as well as Barkley we have our franchise QB. Barkley on the other hand is looking more like a starter in the NFL then backup which could translate to good trade value down the line. (IMO) I'm not trying to start a QB controversy because there is none...

Its a sad day for the game of football.