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  1. 18 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

     

     

    The majority of the worst calls now are so subjective that I don't see review making it any less controversial.

     

    It's gone down like this:

     

    1) League drastically changed the interpretation of rules in 2010 to protect QB's and WR..........specifically Aaron Rodgers and Ben Roethlisberger.......who were supposed to become the faces of the league but were getting concussed left and right.

     

    2) The first year 7 QB's had top 25 all-time passing yardage seasons.  Rising tide raised all ships but really didn't alter the power any because it only made the teams with the BETTER QB's that much more dangerous.

     

    3) About 7-8 years later the league started getting a noticeable influx of physically gifted QB's and WR's whose families had steered them toward the game because it had gotten so much safer for those positions and the earnings potential was rapidly expanding. 

     

    4) So to keep it from become a speedboat race out there the league has gradually allowed more and more contact in the secondary to level the playing field for disadvantaged defense's..........to the point where it's anyone's guess if something is going to be called a defensive holding or a PI.   There has never been more contact down the field before the ball arrives than there is now.  

     

    It's frustrating not knowing what is going to be called or not called...........if you let it be(you can just accept it like the weather and hope your team plays well enough to avoid a call or two getting them beaten)............but I don't see those calls getting reversed often(if at all) because they really are so subjective and those are what are driving people crazy and impacting scores late in the game.

     

    Frankly I'd rather see the boat races,  less drama and better teams win.........but I don't think that sells as well to the masses as the product they've created.

     

     

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Much appreciated.

     

      By gradually allowing more and more contact to take place between DB and WR which does appear to be the case. More and more actual penalties are occurring, some called, some not because of it IMO. Give an inch and players will take a mile. Perhaps becoming more controversial with clear cut images of what the league calls a penalty is needed. When you start red flagging missed or wrong calls the league itself has to make a final determination for everyone to see. Uniformity on penalty calls across the league would become more easily established in my humble opinion. 

     

    Thanks again for the insightful post.

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  2. 8 hours ago, Freak-O said:

    Offensive holding is one of the worst I think. It’s so random what they call and not and it can really stall a drive and kill a game. 

    Needs to be changed to a 5 yard penalty IMO. 

     

    8 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

     

     

    First of all, there is no proof that officiating isn't broadly "fair".

     

    It may be very often incorrect but it doesn't appear to tilt the overall results in the favor of just a few teams,  so it is therefore "fair".

     

    What you are actually asking for is "better" officiating.

     

    Not sure how you've determined that you or anyone involved "deserve" better.

     

    If you are paying to watch the NFL for all these years then you have been voting for this level of officiating all along with your wallet.   So you are getting what you deserve.   If you only watch it for free, you aren't paying for it so you don't deserve anything.

     

    Fair enough,

     

    In all fairness the integrity of the outcome could greatly benefit from shall we say better officiating. Adding missed or wrong calls to the red flag challenge is an easy way to correct mistakes real time. 

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  3. 5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

     

     

    If you want to see how that kind of system works.........follow the NBA.

     

    The players run that league and they lobbied hard to have power over officiating by being able to review just about everything.    It's slowed the game down and that power has turned the players into outright intolerable assh*les to the officials all game.........which in turn then leads to technical fouls and ejections..........which creates drama and alters scores/outcomes........which ultimately has the same effect as bad officiating.    

     

    Adding missed or wrong calls to the red flag challenge brings about a more uniform way of officiating throughout the league. Officials want to cast a blind eye on penalties they get challenged. Bad officiating becomes easy to identify and removed If deemed necessary. It doesn't slow down the game because the rules to its usage remains the same. Players, coaches, fans. We all deserve fair officiating.

  4. 19 hours ago, Long Suffering Fan said:

     

    I mean, by counting Dabol you are making it sound as if McD failed in that hire.  When someone does so well that he gets hired away as a head coach that should count for McD, not against.

     

    And, to say no improvement in results....isn't it too early to make that statement about Brady?

    The Bills went over 2 decades without getting into the playoffs before the McBeane regime. Revolving door at the QB position. We now have one of the best QB's in the league. Elite. Making the playoffs has become the norm. McD deserves credit for all of it. 

     

     Mike Tomlin of the Steelers just fired his OC under similar circumstances.  Let the season play out people.

     

    A win against the high flying Eagles on Sunday and its on like a MOFO.   

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  5. 2 hours ago, Mango said:

     

    For all the talk about Dorsey's X's and O's I think your point was likely his biggest flaw. A huge part of coaching isn't just telling people the right things to do, it is getting them to do those things, finding the right words, to get the desired results. In fact, most coaches in the NFL are likely pretty comparable when it comes to x's and o's, but the difference between good to great is communicating that, and providing the proper environment/structure around it. 

    Like a bunch of former QB's have said "guys are open, you have to make a play". Some of that is on the individual and some is on the coach. 

    Whatever Dorsey was saying, nobody was hearing. It was time to move on because of that more so than any play call. 

    Great post Mango

     

    You guys have seen me float the idea of Ryan Fitzpatrick as Buffalo's next OC more than once. From a Bills/ players perspective If Fitz tells them something players will respond well and listen. Josh would respond well under Fitzpatrick. The Chan Gailey playbook with Fitz calling plays and poof,

     

    like magic, the Billls O and Josh Allen are riding high in the saddle once again!   

  6. 3 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

    Yes, Bob, Josh has done all the things you complain about, but that's Josh.  That's what the coaches have to work with.

     

    We've seen Josh NOT throw into double coverage, NOT ignore the underneath routes, STAY in the pocket, throw with TOUCH.   We've seen him throw accurately.   We've seen him do EVERYTHING a great QB does.  He CAN do it, without question.   

     

    I have said almost since Josh arrived that of all the great QBs, Josh is most similar to Elway.  Premier physical talent - in fact, Josh is physically better that Elway was.   Elway didn't win Super Bowls until the end of his career, because coaches failed to get him and his game under control.  

     

    The answer is not to say that Josh makes mistakes, because without more that implies that the Bills should move on from him.  The Bills should not move on from transcendent talent.  Every great QB needs to be managed.  Elway, Favre, even Manning.  The only answer is to get coaches who can help him realize his greatness. Josh needs to be coached and managed.   He is a supreme talent, and he can and should be executing an offense that is dominant in the league.   It's up to McDermott and his offensive coordinator to reach that objective.   

     

    You hit the nail on the head.

     

    Josh Allen plays with a gunslinger mentality. One of the strongest arms the NFL has ever seen. Checking the ball down and taking what the D gives you doesn't come natural to him. Never has, and without the management part of the equation Allen will continue to have a high TD to INT ratio. So lets hope Joe Brady has the balls to get in Allens face and chew him out like Daboll or its all for not IMO.

     

    Myself personally Shaw, Josh Allen has all the tools, (and then some) the intelligence, and sees the field as good as the GOAT/ Tom Brady. Its up to Joe Brady now to make it work.   

     

    Allen takes responsibility for the firing of Ken Dorsey

     

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/allen-blames-himself-for-dorsey-firing-but-insists-bills-aren-t-a-broken-team/ar-AA1k2CPH?ocid=xboxntp&cvid=c7db3f0fa75342b89e0cbff46b64e222&ei=14

  7. 40 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

    So Shaw let's say for the sake of argument that Brady turns out amazing.  Sean gets this one right like Daboll.  How does that help us eliminate McD's bonehead game day mistakes.  Or maybe Brady will turn Josh back into a confident elite qb and the offense will start scoring 30 again?  That will at least mask the never ending mistakes Sean's bound to make in the future. 

     Why so adamant a man like Sean McDermott wouldn't/couldn't learn from his mistakes? Never ending?

     

    You could say HC's make mistakes in every game they lose. So I suppose it is never ending. 

     

    Everyone wants to point to the 13 seconds of madness only Mahomes could make, Get over it.

  8. 11 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

    Yes, that's true.  

     

    The alternative is to hire an OC-HC, if you can find the right one, but then you have the same problem on the defensive side.   The fact that it will be hard to hire and keep a successful OC is more or less a given, unless you fire McDermott to keep the OC.  

     

    I'm really not here to defend McDermott.  I just think at this point in this season, the only move that made sense was the one they made.  Dorsey was failing and gone at the end of the season.  May as well try out Brady. 

     

    Well, I'm not sure McBeane won't make the same mistake twice.  Ralph Wilson made the same mistakes for decades.   It's not a given that McBeane will succeed, and they've given us reason to doubt them.  

    Terry Pegula is a better business man though, and he doesn't have Russ Brandon whispering sweet nothings in his ear ;  )

  9. 11 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

    I was with you to the end.   As I just said, he hired Daboll, so why is it that the Bills won't get another good coordinator?   Good for you, truly, that you knew Dorsey wasn't the right guy, but the fact that you were right about one OC and McDermott was wrong doesn't mean that McDermott can't hire and thrive with a good OC.  

    I agree, its doubtful that Mcbeane makes the same mistake twice. If Joe Brady doesn't start showing them something and quick, the search is on IMO. It may already be on for all we know.

     

    Who as an Offensive minded coach wouldn't want to work with Josh Allen. 

  10. Fitzy for OC you mean.  Fitz has the Gailey playbook memorized already. Great leadership abilities. Fearless when he played.

     

    Bills players including Josh would respond very well under him.

     

    I've been preaching this idea until I'm Buffalo blue in the face. The Perfect Fit/z.

     

    Amen

     

    I don't want to hear about all the $$$ Fitzy makes with his cushy job on Thursday night football.

     

    Buffalo needs you!!!  

     

    The bearded one needs a call from Pegula...

  11. 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said:

    McDermott doesn't need "counsel" from Beane, who he hired, or at least got hired. McDermott needed another scapegoat after Frazier. Now he has one on both sides of the ball. Next will probably be the special teams coach. McDermott is a flim-flam artist. A shoe salesman with a great line of s%#t. 

     

    If Pegula fires him tonight he will have waited too long. It is time for Pegula to rid the Bills of McDermott and his second rate soft shoe vaudville act.

    What McD did with a D missing 5 starters vs Denver kept the Bills in the game after the O coughed the ball up 4 times. Doing double duty as HC/DC. Took the Bills into the playoffs after a 2 decade drought with Tyrod Taylor.

     

    McD just sent Buffalo's biggest problem packing. What more do you want from this guy?

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  12. 20 hours ago, Old Coot said:

    You do understand that the responsibility for the field goal team is likely on the special teams coach?

     

    It is likely that the late DB injurie messup up the field goal team D.

     

    The D played well enough to win tonight. Who coaches the D?  

    Logic has no place here

     

    Thanks for this post you Old Coot ;) 

  13. 1 hour ago, CincyBillsFan said:

    After 2019, DaBoll did a lot more than run Allen like a RB. In 2020, 2021 & 2022 the Bills had an elite passing attack led by Allen. 

     

    And other then supporting Beans need to use Allen as a CAP ATM machine for extending the contract and freeing up money how valuable is "longevity"?  And what defines "longevity"?  Is another 6 or 7 years with Allen and the offense being highly productive using his full skill set and the Bills knocking on the SB door really worse then 10 to 12 more years of a less effective Allen?  I wonder what Allen would want?

     

    But maybe you're right and the Bills can find the sweet spot where they "manage" Allen, extending his career while maintaining the "it" factor that makes Allen great.  But to do that they'll need to get coaches with the right skill sets to make it happen.  And more importantly they'll have to change the franchises focus from the defense to the offense.  I don't see McD or Bean as the guys to do it.

     

     

    Big fan of Daboll as Bills OC. He did a great job with the development of Josh Allen. Hated losing him.

     

    Getting Kincaid in the 1st round is a good step in the right direction IMO. I also think we have just scratched the surface with James Cook. 

     

     

     

     

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  14. 4 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

    The worst thing you could do is "manage Allen".  That is what McD is trying to do and it's destroying what makes Allen special and neutering the offense in the process. Allen is a special talent that needs special handling like Brett Favre or John Elway did to fully exploit his talents. 

     

    And for the record DaBoll did not "manage" Allen he exploited Allen's unique and elite skill set.  And he did this successfully operating within an organization that favored the defense with the lions share of resources and never was willing to commit to assembling an elite offense to put around it's elite QB.

     

    So instead of managing Allen the Bills need to:

     

    *  First the Bills need an offensive mind that embraces and game plans around what Allen does best. DaBoll was that sort of offensive mind.  I suspect there are a lot of guys out there who could do it as DaBoll wasn't really all that special.  What he did with Allen was common sense when faced with a talent like Allen.

     

    *  Second, the Bills need to surround Allen with high end complimentary skill players who can best take advantage of Allen's strengths.  Who is the Bills go to 50/50 pass catcher?  Why aren't the Bills emphasizing SPEED like the dolphins do.  And emphasizing speed isn't signing some role player who has lost a step like Harty.

     

    *  Third, the Bills need a first rate O line.  For 5 seasons they bring in career back ups and lower draft picks and try to create a patch work line that at best is average and often much below that.

     

    *  And finally the Bills need an offensive minded head coach that can get in Allen's face and lay the law down.  

     

    Bean/McD's strategic plan was to build an elite D while relying on Allen to elevate the average offensive talent they put around him.  And Allen did elevate that talent which led to high scoring offenses and four straight trips to the playoffs and three straight division titles.  But the D never became truly elite and was the main cause for the Bills playoff exits all 4 years.

     

     

     

    Managing Allen doesn't mean you have to eliminate what makes him great. There's a time and place for everything. Throwing into double, even triple coverage is a mistake waiting to happen. Daboll ran Allen like a RB exploiting Allens skill set. Its not something that is going to give one of the best arms the NFL has ever seen, longevity.

     

    You get that right?  

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  15. 1 minute ago, UKBillFan said:


    Or he doesn’t chew Josh out on the right way to get his head straight? Instead, he’s sent him into a tailspin.

    Fair enough, I suppose that may also be the case. Daboll and Allen worked very well together. I hate to wish bad things on HC Daboll, but I hope he gets fired and comes back to his boy Josh, lol

  16. 8 minutes ago, Zag20 said:

    Allen needs to be managed, which is what Daboll did. That isn’t happening now. 

    While I don't fault Ken Dorsey for Allens poor decisions on the football field. What you say is true because Dorsey doesn't have the balls to chew Allen out.  

     

    Well put Zag20...

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