Figster
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Yeah, I've heard that argument before, that the worst thing to happen to brain health in football was the hardshell helmet, which effectively weaponizes the head. It's interesting, for sure...
Softer exterior reduces the initial impact. Doing so without creating excessive cohesion has been the biggest obstacle in my humble opinion.
You don't want to trade less head injuries for more neck injuries.
I'm going to assume they have found a happy medium with this helmet design.
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It will be interesting to see if they help. No helmet will stop the brain from crashing into the inside of the skull.
hard shelled exterior helmets should have been removed from the markets years ago in my humble opinion.
Its been a long time coming...
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Very few will argue against that and those that do IMO s/b ignored.
New HC, new GM etc etc ... they want their own guys.
IF Taylor had a passing game there would be little doubt to his qualifications.
They know what limitations there are to the run first mentality and a scrambling TT.
TT's first extension was written is such a way that he had to prove himself last year to get a long term deal done. That didn't happen and now the deal was reset.
I've said this before and I'll say it again, the only thing standing between Tyrod Taylor and Cam Newton is 4 inches in height and 4 points on the wonderlic.(IMO)
The right system and supporting cast can help bridge the gap in my humble opinion.
I realize thats probably not how you view the situation Shady,
and with all due respect.
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Since the contract renegotiation so have I. I was 50/50 on whether he was the best option on the old deal.
I can understand how many Bills fans would feel this way.
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trantsplantbillsfan has always looked at Taylor as the best option available which is true in IMO.
Myself personally,
The impression I'm getting is expectations are very high on Taylor from the people that matter most with the Buffalo Bills.
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You guys are seriously arguing about what is going to happen and how Tyrod will play out before it happens? Might as well pick lottery numbers and argue who has the correct numbers before the drawing.
They don't spend any time upgrading the position. They draft a backup QB on a cheap contract. When contract is about to expire they draft a new backup while fleecing a team to trade for old backup.
You guys are seriously arguing about what is going to happen and how Tyrod will play out before it happens? Might as well pick lottery numbers and argue who has the correct numbers before the drawing.
They don't spend any time upgrading the position. They draft a backup QB on a cheap contract. When contract is about to expire they draft a new backup while fleecing a team to trade for old backup.
McD has devised a good plan of action going forward into the future with T Mobile in my humble.
If I was a betting man, my moneys on Taylor...
double down, haha
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I would not be against one of the goodies being a qb
Even if TT kills it....would not be a bad idea to keep filling the QB cup....there has been a shortage in Buffalo for such a long time.
If we could only grow QB's like we do CB's,
Pats have the best QB in the league yet still devote a great deal of attention and time upgrading the position.
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As I stated earlier, I think TT is penciled in as the starter. I think Beane was telling the truth that if the season started today, it would be Taylor.
I think that Taylor will clearly be the #1 in camp, he won't be splitting much reps with the other QB's. He will some but not anywhere close to an equal split.
If Taylor starts slipping or if Peterman just knocks it out of the park early on....then it'll be a "true" competition.
Basically its Taylor's job now but he can lose it.
well said Tee, and as it should be,
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Doesn't seem like coach speak to me... if anything it seems like Beane almost made him walk back his enthusiasm right after that response and McDermott's response right after that was the diplomatic one.
Sure seemed like genuine enthusiasm as his initial response.
But to each his own.
I absolutely do not think McDermott will hesitate moving on from Taylor if he's disappointed in his 2017 season. But it sure doesn't seem like this is the open competition some believed was being advertised.
Some of the comments from the new players suggest this is Taylors team.
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My gut tells me that he will also be good....but I think he is gonna be put in a position of success which will have a lot to do with it....he will not have immediate pressure on him which helps.
None,
this is Taylors team...
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....sure is so far and on paper......but it is interesting to review strength of schedule stats before season(s) begin as compared to at the end of the season.....far too many variables by team to predict....so you play ALL 16 to win........has to be a non-issue otherwise it's doom 'n gloom IMO................better focal point is AFCE and going at best 4-2 as the initial goal......
well said my friend,
one injury to a key player, namely the QB, and it happens every season, changes the course of what would be a playoff contender and another team takes its place,
so why not us AFL...
...why not us...
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Transplant?
Why does it bother you so much that many, many fans think Tyrod is not the answer at QB? You can post other peoples article/stats for days, they mean squat when people have already formed a opinion of what Tyrod is. All you really need is your 2 friggin eyes to form one and to have watched the Bills the last 2 seasons. Just let Tyrod fight the fight and make us change our minds. You posting Pro-Tyrod threads non-stop on BBMB and here is not swaying anyone.
Its been an interesting and insightful thread in my humble opinion.
I respect everyones opinion and it comes as no surprise to me the minority detractors are the most vocal in any Tyrod Taylor thread.
When you say many, based on what?
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kind of in the middle of mild and extreme, (voted mild)
hard schedule, but going to make for a very exciting season,
can't wait...
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Has Tyrod ever shown you that he commands the offense? That he gets the offense set up and adjusts according to what he sees at the line? Most QB's that have to worry about getting the play off are doing so because they are making adjustments at the line according to what they are seeing from the defensive alignment. Tyrod isn't doing this. Are you telling me that Roman and his plays were that complex that Tyrod couldn't decipher it and took too long...longer than guys that get the call, examine the defense, adjust the call and then run the play? Lynn simplified reads along with verbiage...I think there's a bit more truth to Tyrod not being that good at processing info on the field and in the huddle than some here are saying. Kaepernick ran Roman's offense very well and he's no genius, so based off all these things, it's fair to say that Tyrod may just struggle with processing info on the field and making reads...a big thing for a QB.
All we've heard and seen is a simple passing game, issues making reads and anticipating receivers, not using certain areas of the field, and having to have the offense scaled back with less reads, less verbiage, and less ability to make calls at the line. It's fair to conclude that based off of all that, that we have a QB that while talented...he's lacking in vital area's where it's most important for the leader of an offense.
Or maybe someone will come back in this thread and tell me that I'm misinterpreting things, lol.
The Bills had the best O in the league when it comes to running the football Crusher, It didn't happen by accident and it took reps away from the passing game. QB had to understand and manage these plays along with everything thats expected from him in the passing game and it does put allot on a QB's plate in my humble opinion. Probably more then most QB's when you consider Taylor is also a big participant in the run game.
I seen improvement towards the end of the season in the passing game.
How about you?
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I agree. Is he a HOF or elite QB-no. He never will be that, but he is better than serviceable I think.
I'm not counting anything out just yet JM.
How do you define elite?
Taylor has the running capabilities of an elite RB already with a cannon arm.
The only difference standing between Tyrod Taylor and Cam Newton is 4 inches in height and 4 points on the wonderlic.
Lets put T T in a Taylor made system with good McD backing him up and see what happens.
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Make sure he doesn't have the worst WR corp in the NFL when Watkins is out. 15-14 as an NFL starter is not terrible.
Under the circumstances JM, with zero help from the D, OC sent packing mid way as a scapegoat.
Tyrod Taylor has been one of the few positives you can take from another failed regime IMO.
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The fact that Taylor couldn't successfully run Roman's offense, and that Lynn had to dumb it down for starters. He doesn't make changes at the line pre snap, and Lynn took even more responsibility away to help him get plays ran quicker. All these things point to a guy who just isn't very good at the x's and O's part of the job. The talent is there, but he's lacking in terms of what he sees and processes.
That's just what I've taken from what I've seen and heard. I know people say Tyrod is smart, and I won't challenge that. What I will challenge is how smart is he in football terms related to being a QB? I haven't seen much of anything that shows me smarts and a high IQ for the position.
I believe everything you say to be true, but heres the thing. The complexity of the G Roman O because of all the added work in the run game puts to many X's and O's on a QB's plate.
...hate to use it, but as Keyshawn said, "just get me the damn ball".....and I have yet to be convinced that TT can scan/process the entire field to do so in time allowed without receivers (WR & TE) giving up routes knowing he'll never see them.....4 year understudy and 2 years starting is a reasonable window to GET the speed/complexity of the game at this level.....if not, what is the "fair time frame window"?...
3rd season my friend,
its now or never...
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It doesn't really matter who Tyrods OC is IMO. You are really only going to be able to do so much with a limited passer. The last two season's we ran alot and only gave Taylor what he could handle, and you have seen the results. Team's have figured out that Taylor is getting by on more playmaking than actual passing ability. Dennison will come up with some more smoke and mirrors stuff to utilize the unique skill set Tyrod has, but that stuff has a shelf life and will ultimately get picked up on, too.
It's ok to have hope that Dennison will get more out of Tyrod, but realistically...I don't believe you can expect significant improvement. Nothing major will change in Taylor's game Unless he can master the basics that he still has major trouble with.
Taylor's height disadvantage begs to differ in my humble opinion Crusher.
A more innovative approach in Taylors positioning on the field, horizontal passing and more user friendly system should help elevate Tyrod Taylors play IMO.
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leaked their draft board to us.
The final post on this page and a couple on the other page claim this.
I don't get where the collusion comes in. Did we take a player they really wanted?
It may have appeared that way, but it would not surprise me if out of respect for McD that the Panthers organiztion was ok with the Bills/McD conducting the draft using Panther scouting reports. (speculation)
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This helps confirm the 1st impressions many of us are getting on McD.
I'm not expecting everything to change overnight, but the dawning of a New Era feels close at hand,
thanks OP
(feel the rhythm with your hands)
I'm a Billiever...
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So, Hokie, is this just a theory you have, or do you have some inside knowledge that tells you this?
I've wondered about Dennison's role in all this. Frankly, if that's true, I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. After all, Chan Gailey really wanted to work with Ryan Fitzpatrick. Everyone can make mistakes.
Still, regardless of how we got here, here we are. Tyrod is almost certainly the starter in 2017. I DO feel good that his offensive coordinator is someone who has worked with him before, someone who is installing the system they worked on together. That's a plus for Taylor, and therefore it's a plus for the Bills.
I would still like to think its better to give an OC a player he believes fits his system and he can be productive with vs forcing a square peg into a round hole in my humble opinion.
Myself personally, to me it appears allot of thought has went into putting Tyrod Taylor in the best position possible to excel and take his play to the next level.
time will telll...
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But all the running QBs who came before them didn't have career ending injuries. They slowed down and became less effective runners, but they didn't get knocked out of their careers. And Taylor was a lot smarter about taking chances last season. So I don't think injury is an unusually big risk.
Good point,
I do believe Taylor shows exceptional field vision and body control when running the football,
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Way off the original topic, but since this has turned into a general Tyrod discussion, something else occurred to me.
In these discussions about the contract, some people often say a QB wants a long-term deal because you never know when you might get injured and no longer be able to play. I was thinking about that.
How many QBs (other than those near the end of their careers, like Romo) have their careers ended by injury? Not many, I think. We may be seeing it happen to Bridgewater. RG III had his career changed by injury, and maybe ended. That guy who got all the concussions who the Bills brought in to start ahead of Manuel.
The point is that although it's possible that a QB will have a career ending injury, just like any position player, it doesn't happen all that often. I think that's another reason why low-priced long-term deals aren't very attractive to players. They know that they're likely to be able to play out their careers. They have good reason to believe that they have plenty of pay days ahead of them.
Myself personally, Tyrod Taylor and Cam Newton have both chosen to use the run game as part of their arsenal when attacking the opposition.
So from an injury standpoint when it comes to league longevity the odds/lines are stacked against them in my humble opinion.
Tyrod will not be handed starting Job
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I agree with you Shady,