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...maybe we are on the same page.....first, I am NOT ANTI-Taylor by ANY means......who the hell would possibly root for a kid to fail in chasing his lifelong dream to be a starting NFL QB?...asinine...secondly, I can tell you FACTUALLY that Roman went ballistic at OBD with the Cassel trade....thus I'm not sure and we'll never know how much or if he warmed up to TT being his starting QB...Lynn just tried to maintain order......sure Wrecks devastated the defense and put a much bigger onus on the offense.....you know that drill....and I am not sure how you can discount TT's inability to scan the ENTIRE field for effective reads/progressions in time allotted......somebody even posted a Dennison comment about TT "locking in" to one guy in OTA's.......
We are on the same page where it really matters my friend.
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....and a ONE dimensional offense doesn't win many games either, right?.................
Taylor didn't design the G Roman O and complaining about the QB/ O becomes secondary to one of the worst D "s in the league don't you think?
I didn't see a One dimensional O and Taylor wouldn't rank so high in the QB ratings if it was IMO.
Weren't we bottom of the barrel in three and outs?
Pats did worse, how did that work out ?
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....no argument here 'Fig....BUT......when "best in the league" nets you another 7-9 record and the 17th consecutive year of booking tee times in January versus the PLAYOFFS, something ain't working....and Wrecks' "ground and pound" public proclamation was about as asinine as asinine gets....he had ONE stallion in the stable and when he got nicked, it was "run and done"....
The Bills D didn't play well enough to win many football games IMO.
The Bills averaged over 5 yards a run and was constantly improving their field position, but it doesn't mean squat when the D is unable to stop the opposition.
You get that right?
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...ouch.....a ringing endorsement.....wonder if Goodell would allow GPS units??..............
You mentioned succesful QB's close to the same height as T T earlier, then a couple of post later you suggested the right coaching and system may have played a part in the success.
Good coaching/systems always plays a big part in the success of an NFL QB, as does supporting cast in my humble opinion.
Taylor has operated a run 1st Bills O with the lowest amount of passing reps in the league.
Tyrod Taylor did what the G Roman O was designed to do, which is run the football.
Best in the league...
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Fabricated or selective stats.
Damn I was trying to stay out the QB discussion.
The season can't come fast enough.
Some posters point out most of the positives and have a positive outlook, some posters point out the negatives with a negative outlook and some stay somewhat neutral.
It balances out in my humble opinion Shady.
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....would be interesting to see a statistical breakdown of his passing game in the "heat of the battle" versus catch up or garbage time......BUT...the kid gets a clean slate IMO with the "dysfunction junction" he's been a part of since signing.....onus is on Dennison to design an offense that fits him but also corrals his premature tendency to "pull it down too soon" depending on his wheels to make it happen regularly.....that needs to be a selective option before he gets killed........he still struggles with processing the entire field, reads, progressions, spotting receivers IF he finds them.....IMO, those are gray matter issues which I'm not sure are fixable.....thus Dennison's offenseive plan needs to take that into account so the passing game is a threatening, viable alternative to the run game.....Blowhard Wrecks was a disaster to the defense but equally so with the offense and his "ground and pound" asinine proclamation with only ONE stallion in the stable...........
You can't process what you can't see IMO.
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I'm very late to this discussion, and I admit I didn't read every response. So apologies in advance, if this has already been covered. 27 pages in, I expect this topic is probably been beaten to death by now, anyway.
The study by Fahey is a type of Content Analysis. But for a Content Analysis to be taken seriously as an evaluative tool, there needs to be more than one coder looking at the same content. The comparison of the coder's evaluations on the various data points, are then compared, to check for bias, mistakes and quite frankly, simply disagreements. The comparison is known as Intercoder Reliability. If the different coders disagree on the evaluation of too many data points, the study has a low intercoder reliability, and can be said to have limited value. I would argue, but some might disagree, if the intercoder reliability is 100% (or very close), the data probably wasn't very interesting to examine to begin with, or the coders shared a specific bias. Without the check of multiple coders, it's simply one guy looking at content variables, and giving his/her opinion.
With that said, I'd prefer an analysis by someone who carefully looks at data and has a very good record at evaluating the specific phenomenon, than someone who says "I know it when I see it", with no record in this area.
Its always a pleasure to hear from you Deano, thanks
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You will latch onto anything that could possibly excuse Taylor or paint him in the light you want everyone else to see him in.
Its a football forum and having discussions about our starting QB goes with the territory.
Are stats a fabrication?
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What I think is interesting about those numbers in the article in particular is that there's something for both sides of the Taylor camp to agree on...
On one side, Taylor breaks the pocket too often; and although some of those were warranted, others weren't. He did this at the highest percentage in the league at about 1% more than Aaron Rodgers, the next highest guy.
On the other side, if Taylor can work on staying in the pocket a bit longer or a bit more, he's a pretty good pocket passer.
That's really what I've seen in Taylor, too. Hopefully Dennison is really working with him on this.
Myself personally, despite the numbers which don't register missed opportunities, Taylor doesn't see the field very well as a traditional pocket passer in my humble opinion transplant.
At '6 1" Taylor is looking into a moving wall of big bodies when he stands in the pocket IMO.
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Ice is a respected Packers fan.
I'll bite.
Right now i would predict being swept by the pack.
Us sweeping the Bears
A split with the Vikings and I'm not sure of the Lions. Let's say a split there too.
Sounds about right,
check your PM's when you get a chance ice,
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I'm trying to abide by the generally frowned upon practice of starting any new QB threads, but I think people might be interested in this article posted a couple hours ago:
Taylor's % of dropbacks where he broke the pocket and his numbers in and out of the pocket
Good thinking,
I believe Taylors ability to throw the football is getting somewhat misinterpreted because of the low passing attempts and comparisons to league totals in my humble opinion.
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Agree with all these points. Another problem with running a no huddle -- and a major one IMO -- is that it lends itself to shortened TOP which puts your defense on the field longer so that they tire out, too.
Moreover, the NFL isn't the same league in 2017 as it was a quarter of a century ago just as the world isn't the same either.
Good point,
and when you play QB's like Tom Brady twice a season I think its safe to say keeping him off the football field as much as possible helps.
tired D against the likes of Brady is a recipe for failure...
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For me, I'd use it as a guideline but not an absolute rule. Each player is case by case. You strive for all 4 boxes to check but some might be in progress - if you believe in the player as a whole you might move fwd with 2 or 3 of the 4.
The Bills do to much of the believing in a player part at the expense of being on the football field IMO.
Useless If you don't play...
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I've always thought TT was at his best with play-action and misdirection plays. Sounds like this will play to that strength.
The speed of the Bills backfield when used properly will put the opposition on its heels in my humble opinion Rubes.
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man, I haven't worried about any of this at all. I suppose there's some question about whether the line can handle it, but I don't see why not. They're generally pretty mobile. And I have no concern about McCoy whatsoever. The guy understands finding daylight and going to it. He understands patience. Last season I imagined him running behind the Steelers line, in place of Bell, and my guess was that he'd be even better at that running style than Bell is.
What I really like about those stretch plays is that they put the whole backfield in motion, including the QB. It allows for floating pockets, rollouts. It isolates pass rushers, so they are easier for a mobile QB to avoid them. I think opening up the offense this way is going to fit nicely with the Bills personnel.
One downside to think about with the stretch plays and moving pockets is that it does allow for DBs to grab/tackle the WRs freely. It's going to be important that our WRs other than Watkins (since he's proven himself powerful enough) be able to work off a jam quickly and take the fight to the DB.
good stuff fellas
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Give it some time, real coaching may help overcome weaknesses and develop strengths.
innovative coaching...
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Just build an offense that fits each individuals strength. Playing to Tyrods strengths are most important this year. Which Denniodons style does, whichbis a big reason they kept him.
The running style will change but Dennison said he saw things that worked great for this offense so he will stick with a few things.
Yes sir
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Buffalo's O needs to put more of an emphasis on giving our QB better pass protection in my humble opinion.
No huddle is something you do with an O unit that has spent enough time together to gel at a regular pace before attempting to up the tempo.(IMO)
Tired players are also more vulnerable to injury IMO.
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You might be surprised:
Dallas had 25 passing TDs and 24 rushing TDs
Cincinnati had 18 passing TDs and 17 rushing TDs
Just saying we aren't the only team that scores by rushing.
Cam Newton is averaging 8 TD a season (rushing) from the QB position.
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Sweet! Maybe I can get him to re-sign the football he signed for me in '73. You can barely read it anymore.
Or he may just take it,
(It does have his name on it)
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Pegula def strikes me as an owner that listens to the fans in one way or another.....I would not be suprised if he didnt peruse this site every once in a while
on the now defunked board.....I once made a comment on the beauty of Kim Pegula......i got a pm from a mod telling me to watch myself in that area......translation....the owner reads the boards
BBMB had posters with inside connections in my humble opinion John just like TBD does now.
To me it translates to having eyes on the boards.
Aside from the even higher up people who want to know what fans are thinking...
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The good points you do sometimes make are ruined by your sarcasm and nasty attitude.
We're all Bills fans. We've all endured 17 years of suffering together. Why add to that pain by being mean to your brothers-in-arms?
this is a good point to make for everyone.
Don't ruin a good post with insults/ nasty attitude.
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I couldn't get through it. Sorry. Looked like the plays were nice, but videos like this drive me insane. Just show me the play. Don't cut every tenth of a second. If you must give me music, OK, though it's not necessary but just show me the whole play.
In any case, they had a terrific run together, but it was short, and it was in Tyrod's first year, when teams hadn't fully figured out how to defense him yet. Last year they seemed to figure that out. Sammy and Tyrod will have to show it again, nobody should assume that because it happened for around nine games two seasons ago under different management with different schemes, it's a sure thing again.
You'd absolutely expect that things should improve if they get Sammy healthy. But how much?
In any case, I hope Sammy can stay healthy and show what he can do for the whole year.
Opposite here Thurm, already seen the plays before and enjoyed the remix/music so well watched it 5 times,
I'll make it 6 now...
QB comparative data for Tyrod from Cian Fahey to discuss
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted · Edited by Figster
I'm not sure where all the confusion came from.
Amen
I want to bump this post