Figster

My 1st impression of the thread If I'm being honest OP was why are you posting this here on TSW. Its not really football related and a cousin from another NFL teams player is a stretch. As I watched the replies come in and the discussion that developed the reason why dawned on me. The NFL is one of the biggest platforms in the world. Through thoughts and prayers perhaps a TBD member will say to himself, you know what, I can be a little safer with my firearms. Making sure my gun cabinet is locked. My ammunition is kept seperate from the guns. I'll make my home a safer place to live. Through thoughts and prayers a child will be saved. Thanks OP for posting.

As harsh as this may sound WEO, it would save lives.

I wasn't familar with the name so had to google it. Sad News

Good point Gu, Thanks I'll never like the guy after the Tre hit, but I can like the millions getting donated.

10 grand is peanuts to Gronk. The way I see it the Tre White hit was worth more to him because it cost more.

Good point, Thanks

I understand, some folks are beyond convincing. High draft picks are developed and pressed into action at a faster pace more now then they where 10 years ago IMO. Make plays or the next guy will. Taking 3 seasons for the light switch to turn on might get you traded in this day and age in my humble opinion.

Its easy enough to link research material. Show how you came to this conclusion. I think its safe to say generally speaking a WR is going to show development/improvement from one season to the next provided you have some continuity at QB, OC, and supporting cast. So it doesn't surprise me If season 3's production is higher then an athletes rookie or 2nd season. On the other hand the game may have slowed down season 2 and the increase in production between rookie and 2nd season might be considered breakout IMO. Despite season 3 production being higher then season 2. I'm not disagreeing with you or Alpha...

Absolutely, Josh Allen in all likelihood throws with the highest velocity in the NFL. Allen has a cannon and is not afraid to use it. Developing chemistry with Josh Allen is not an easy thing to do IMO. Its something both Foster and Jones have a good head start on and I'm expecting them to build on it. Fan of my fellow poster Alpha, I think being wrong about Zay Jones if it helps Josh Allen take the next step into becoming a franchise QB. It would be a big plate of crow the Dawgy would be happy to eat. ( Buffalo wing sauce)

Fair enough, it is a dead horse. For the record I liked Flutie, but at the time was wanting Rob Johnson to start. So there's that...

Thread kinda gives talking football X's and O's a whoke new meaning. Hugs for all... ...kisses for the Mrs...

Do you seriously think Rob Johnson was the better QB? Should we have replaced J K with Reich because of what Kelly did the 3 previous Superbowls? No, of course not, you stick to what got you there. If there was such things as football gods and bad karma do you think benching the magic flute for surfer dude earned us any brownie points? Music City miracle should have never happened. One football god says to another " Buffalo doesn't deserve a good QB" Other football god snickers and says " Lets give them good CB's instead" I'm just saying... (Sorry OP for straying off topic)

I think this is the point OP was trying to make. The somewhere in between doesn't get the job done. Facing teams like KC or the Pats in this day and age requires above average play from the QB position. Odds are without a good QB going deep into the playoffs are slim. Odds are winning a Championship requires going through arguably the best QB that every played the game in Tom Brady. Lots riding on the big shoulders of Josh Allen... ...One Buffalo Strong...

Mcbeane lands a franchise QB after searching for almost 2 decades. Its a guy like Josh Allen who is already doing things as a rookie that makes you feel proud (both on and off the field). Yes Tipster, I'm feeling it. The team being built around him. The Coaching. The process. It does have a different feel...

....I think the city of Buffalo... and the entire Bills fan base.... is about ready to propose.... ...just sayin.........

Its also not like Allen did anything statistical in the passing game to help matters. Nobody knows Josh Allen better then we the fans, his coaches and teamates. Flying under the radar is fine by me...

True that I think I liked ieatcrayons better though,

How about more predictable as in providing good pass protection.

I kinda miss ieatcrayons...

With all due respect Fergy good Olines get that way by playing together so the only way I see this idea having any merit is if the whole unit can be changed at once. Even then you would have a drop off in protection. Good Oline is also costly...

If I remember correctly, JK had made some comments awhile back expressing his interest in sharing a few thoughts with Allen. Sort of an ice breaker comment. Don't quote me on it though https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/213281-jim-kelly-wants-to-sit-down-with-josh-allen/

It is classy Gu, Regardless of who may have initiated it...

Nor do I Lfod, watching one of the latest interviews with Simms I was intrigued with how easily Allen could give explanation for his minor adjustments and actions. To me Allen comes accross as a guy that will soak up everything around him good and bad then find ways to make improvement. A great example of the process.

Myself personally, just as much can be learned from failure as success in many instances and throughout history we learn valuable lessons that should never be forgotten. Allot can be learned from 4 straight Superbowl losses in my humble opinion. If J K can give J A a few good pointers on what it took to go to 4 straight Superbowls, Allen is going to find a way to win. One Buffalo strong...

I can understand your concern Gu On the other hand though Josh Allen is a very intelligent individual. I think at the end of the day Allen is going to make his own mind up on what works for him and what doesn't in my humble opinion. I also think what Kelly has to offer might prove beneficial in many instances IMO. Much like a veteran QB like Anderson, despite being away from the game for so long.