Buffalo716

I'm glad he just finally gets to shine some at the NFL level He was a warrior at UB

I said before the season I see future pro bowls and even probably an All pro for Brown

Where do you think the passing offense can evolve forward coming off a bye week and down the stretch?

In a well played game that certainly stuck out to me during the game for sure But the game plan top to bottom defensively and offensively without RT, TE and WR2 was something I really thought was very good to see The team did not look or play afraid... And sean and babich had a good read most of the night ... They weren't playing catch up they were dictating Pat had to work really hard for a lot of completions

Absolutely we were not great on first down a lot BUT at the end of the day that is better than abandoning the run and making Josh play hero all game Remember the first 3-4 years here when he was our leading rusher.. we've done everything to make sure that never happens again And sticking with handing it off to your running backs even on a bad day is stuff that even Tom Brady did Would I like to see some more creativity in the run game? Yes... But at least they didn't abandon it Yes, the one say I would say about Brady's game plan was it put us in second and long a good amount... But at the end of the day not abandoning the run kept our offensive line going forward and not backwards in protection every play They still get to assert more dominance even if the statistics weren't there.. it's wearing out the defense more I would like more creativity on some early down runs

Well didn't they steal his lawn chairs lol I'm pretty sure the code of Hammurabi says an eye for an eye and cuts off the hands of thieves He just went Tony soprano on them and smacked them up a bit 🤣

Love me some ty Johnson Super dependable... And he doesn't mind blocking

you're fine I don't take offense Was there 15 plays I could probably talk about and break down yes.. I did just choose that last offensive play because the magnitude... And the tiny things in the play The one thing Josh has became very very good at is pre-snap protections .. and he struggled early in his career He could never slide the line the right way... Now it's something that's comfortable to him and I think that's coachability and preparation But top down Sean has the people in the building doing things the right way day in and day out... The Patriot Way was talked about for 15 years.. how they do the right thing Sean has the preparation for this team the same way

I specifically talked about this play to talk about how little details in coaching can make a big difference There was great coaching on display for four quarters.. from the game plan to the calls The thread is about how good the coaching was on Sunday.. from top down I just highlighted the biggest play of the game because there's nuance in there that comes from preparation and coaching And a lot of this board thinks we have overrated coaches

It's a half line shift... That's why the center went left with LG... The tackles and the Right guard were left one on one Every single play they have a protection where it's sliding some way Doesn't have to be announced in the press conference.. happens every play

Technically you are correct it is possible I am not a fan of spying with two yards to go... It can work but a lot of times it just is taking a guy out of a drop zone when a quick completion is needed... When he put eight guys around the line of scrimmage... He could have sent six including one in the Gap Josh ran through That's why analytics says to go for it when you have Josh Allen in 4th 1 or 2... He's really hard to stop from getting two yards It's pick your poison

Players make plays within a system You go through hundreds of hours in film room and meeting rooms to prepare for situations like this Yes Josh Allen freeballed and made a play... The blocking scheme which kromer is in charge of created an open Lane which Josh can run through How you block up that last play will determine if there is a lane or not... Josh could have put his five lineman in multiple different blocking combinations What he did is trust what he's been coached up to do in that situation like Josh made a play but the line execution was extremely well and that comes from preparation

Don't bring me back into this when I understand x's and o's at an extremely high level The bills have ran 150 mesh plays this year and they don't always half slide left... Kromer's blocking scheme and coaching certainly is the reason they did that They just didn't do it out of nowhere

The Chiefs only scored one touchdown in the second half and had 259 yards of offense It was a tremendous coaching effort across the board with a great game plan ... Our defense was controlling the majority of the game not there offense If there's one thing you should learn its that Joe Brady will continue to run the ball whether it's successful or not because it keeps the defense honest And wears them out

He's very good but at the end of the day he still a dome kicker You literally can't take what he does and then dome and then think it will be the same and windy ass orchard Park His percentage is definitely changing

As I said up thread 4th and two or even third and two is a really no win situation for a spy That's why they put seven eight guys in the box... Overload Josh's brain and get him to try and hold the ball a split second more It's one thing if it was third and 7 or 4th and 7... A spy has enough room to track him down.. at 4th and 2 and Josh can go left, right , a gap left or right B Gap left or right.. that's almost too close for it to be super effective And taking someone out of coverage.. to spy would mean it would be easier for Josh to find a three yard completion You're between a rock and a hard place with that distance... You're better sitting in zone like they did while crowding the line of scrimmage or actually sending six and trying to clog all of Josh's running Lanes

Well yeah absolutely you can pick apart a lot of things throughout the game I was definitely not a fan of third and two play call... I think you squarely have to put it in Josh's hands both plays OR have a better schemed run that could at minimum get it within quarterback sneak range Ideally I would keep it in Josh's hands both times

Yeah players have to make plays I'm pretty sure Jimmy Johnson And other have said it's not the X's and O's it's the jimmies and the Joe's And there's a sign of truth You need players to make plays at the end of the game... But they need to be coached well enough to not panic and be prepared enough to get themselves into the right spot We've seen 20 years of bills in ineptitude to where they do not make the right little adjustments at the end of the game Sure the play call was absolutely a man beater.. it was a mesh concept But the Bills coaches are not dumb enough to just have a one play outcome.. they obviously have little intricacies if it does happen to be zone... The line shift is one of those things Yes Andy Reid was holding back on every single good play he has And Sean McDermott gave him the kitchen sink every single thing in his arsenal Andy Reid opened the game with misdirection reverse lol he did not hold all his cards to his vest.. our offense was more vanilla than theirs Listen is challenging has been one of the worst parts of his game But he's also one of the best developers in the world I will live with that

To be fair we also have an x NFL official in the booth telling him when he should or shouldn't challenge There's so many stuff going on he doesn't always have the perfect angle or idea He relies on other people's vantage point and looks

Because he didn't have to check out of it The routes were not good for a zone but the protection and the preparation made Josh confident in what he needed to do Take a slightly deeper drop manipulate the left defensive end and create a gap But that all stems from coaching from the quarterback coach and offensive coordinator and film room Lesser quarterbacks panic a good quarterback trusts what he's been taught

You can sit here and say that the coaching didn't matter on the last play But that last play shows they are coached from top down They half slid left to create a gap in the b gap... When if they were just going for pure pocket presence passing they would slide right They called a man beater with protections for a possible zone call which is coaching

It was a man beater ... But that's why coaching from top down is important The routes ran were not good for zone.. they were tight and grouped The protection, which is coached down via film room saved the play ... Because at the NFL level a man beater vs zone or vice versa can be beat with protection and coaching what to do It was not blocked like a quick hitter play... It was not blocked like a typical mesh... They ran a man beating play ... Which didn't turn out to be man... But the protection allows Josh to create after the initial play is not there It was clear pre-play that it was not man coverage... So Josh a 100% knew it was zone... And he is coached what to do in a zone situation Slide the pocket left manipulate the left defensive end wide and hit the gap That is coaching top down 100%... They go through these situations in practice thousands of times Josh has to make the play.. but he's been coached for years what to do in that situation You call a man-beater and they're in zone.. you partially slide left create a gap in the b gap and now he has options That is coaching... Because like I said feelings tell you to slide to the right and double Chris Jones.. but that doesn't create a gap in the b gap... And Josh knew it was not man coverage

They absolutely did a great job containing him.. they have a tremendous front... Like I said I truly believe the differences 100 hours of film study with the o line QB coach and line coach Human nature says you slide right and double Chris Jones... But the intricacies of football say you half slide left and create that gap on the right That is purely film room preparation and coaching Because feelings say you don't do that

Yeah Ive been traumatized by the bills as much as you can like we all have so that's why I don't need the game day thread I do swear at my TV enough as is or in person when I'm there The thing that's impressing me is quarterbacks who understand protections, and why and where you call them is a coached thing Josh has been in meeting rooms for 100 hours with his lineman quarterback coach and line coach... And they tell him when he sees this front even if you want to double Chris Jones This is why you don't and you have slide left

You put seven guys on the line of scrimmage so you don't have to spy him All the people in the box is supposed to confuse him a split second enough for anything else to get home... Spying a quarterback with two yards to go is taking another guy out of coverage which could just make a easier completion and they probably can't get the Josh within two yards I get what you're saying but it's actually a no win down and distance It was 4th and seven a spy can absolutely get it done and maybe tackle him at 5 yards The football field being so wide.. it's a hard spy to stop two yards you'd be better off just heavily blitzing him and trying to get home