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I don't understand what the Jets play is here if your theory is correct. How does their DC taking over as head coach better prepare them to introduce Davante Adams into the room and increase their odds of winning a Super Bowl? Maybe this is all Rodgers engineering exactly what he wants to happen and Woody Johnson is just submitting to his will because he has too much invested in him not to. It just seems like if you're going all in on a one year window you can't fire the head coach at 2-3.

The reason I ask is that if you watch their offensive system compared to ours it is like two different sports. Mahomes played fantastic but it is almost like he is playing a different position compared to Allen. I saw a stat after the game that Mahomes threw zero tight window passes in that game. That takes nothing away from his ability to read the defense and deliver the ball appropriately, in addition to his uncanny ability to get away from pressure in the pocket and create positive plays from nothing, but still it is not comparable to what Allen has to do on a down by down basis within our offensive system.

There's a whole thread about this play. I'm welcome to being wrong on this but this is what I saw: Looks like a sluggo and Allen is reading the leverage of the safety to determine which shoulder the ball goes to. Safety bites inside so he throws outside shoulder. When Allen gears up to throw there is nothing about his mechanics that indicates the pass sailed on him or drifted to the right. He is clearly intentionally aiming the pass outside shoulder.

Genuine question for you - did you watch the Chiefs game last night?

I think that's a band aid, not a sustainable means of offensive production. Baltimore and then Houston made it a point to not let him get away with cheap yards. 2nd and 10 after Josh comes back in the game, Houston rolls down a safety to cover him man to man and he has no chance of converting the wheel unless he makes a circus catch. Defenses are going to continue keying in on him. He is very talented so sometimes he will make plays despite the attention but eventually you have to get the ball downfield and we just can't do that with any type of consistency right now.

The offensive coaching is fine. Nothing more, nothing less. There are no in-season solutions to that problem. So we have to accept the solutions that exist. Plenty of things to analyze about the offense's failures in this game, from Allen to the coaching to the OL, but there is one really fundamental problem that has actual solutions sitting out there.

We tried to play that way against the Ravens and it got us nowhere. The Ravens just sat on the short stuff and made sure our guys felt it too. Everyone is desperately searching for answers that don't exist with the current personnel. Can't go run heavy, can't go downfield, can't separate quickly in short areas. Could Andy Reid make it work with this group? Sure. But we have to be realistic about our coaching and our personnel. No miracle sustainable game plans are coming. The offense is and will remain a slog unless we add a legit talent to the room. Luckily there very well may be several of them available in the coming weeks. Either we make a play for one or we're punting on a possible championship season. There are no other answers.

I've never seen Allen or Mahomes or Jackson plant and reload on that kind of play. They are all throwing off platform and expecting their intended target to make himself available. Making that throw is hard. Standing still in wide open space is easy. JMO

I think there is (and has been) a lack of coaching the details in this offense. Everyone loves to blame execution. But the coaches are responsible for getting their players ready to execute. When you have a QB like Josh you CANNOT fudge the details on the scramble drill. It has to be baked into the offense as much as anything else. If it was just Hollins I would chalk it up to one bad egg but like you said it's everybody.

Allen is in scramble drill and Hollins just cluelessly keeps running in the opposite direction across the field. You want to know why Mahomes to Kelce is impossible to stop? Kelce just stands still in the wide open space and makes this an easy throw. I mean c'mon Mack: I'm not expecting him to be Kelce but there is so much space there to make himself an available target and instead he drifts away from his QB. Basic scramble drill rules tell you he needs to come back to the ball. I have no idea what he is thinking here. This is why Shakir has actually become so valuable to the offense. Beyond his YAC skills, he has developed a knack for making himself an easy target for Allen. These other guys running routes haven't got a clue.

That exact play was called DPI on 4th down against the Bengals. I know it makes no difference. Just saying.

I don't really even understand the challenge or the drama here. Carr is going to the locker room and they're in automatic FG territory. The game is over.

Can't give your guy a better chance than that. Carr stood tall and took a shot and gets nothing for it.

Every Chiefs play design is insane. Different planet like I said earlier.

Andy Reid is the GOAT of getting his pass catchers literally alone on the screen. And it's somehow always just right in the middle 10 yards away from the QB.

Klint Kubiak will be a head coach as early as next year.

It's literally every Chiefs game ever. They play with their food then make all of the plays they need to make in the final 2 minutes. It's all a big tease.

Now that is just dumb luck. Please capitalize on it. I haven't seen Derek Carr look comfortable a single time tonight.

Nah Adebo dragged him to the ground. It's just brain dead defensive play. The ball was never going to be caught. The Saints as a whole are playing very tight tonight. It is the Chiefs effect for sure. They just come out and play their game while the other side panics and makes silly mistakes

Embarrassing CB play. You had leverage against a small WR. Just maintain your position and play the ball.

Are you freaking kidding me that Olave randomly bouncing forward on his toes pre-snap costs the Saints a 3rd down conversion? I'm regularly in awe at the new and creative ways teams manage to give away games to the Chiefs.

What are they thinking? You blitz Mahomes when you're just trying to make it to halftime?

They are good but Chiefs have had an OT problem all year long. They might have the best IOL and the worst OT pair in the league, the discrepancy is that stark.

Awful defensive coaching to not be ready for the screen on 2nd and 34 by the way. The most obvious play call in that situation that defenses always manage to screw up.

From 2nd and 34 to this. This coaching staff is on another planet.