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Yes seemingly special teams is the reason they are keeping a bad veteran DE over a promising young CB. I don't agree with that logic to put it plainly.

Okay. Casey Toohill is the #5 DE on the depth chart. Which of those two players would you rather have? For me it's a no brainer. Cam Lewis has mostly sucked every time he's actually taken the field. For some reason this regime has an attachment to him. You're probably right that I'm getting too worked up over a depth CB. But isn't that the point of the draft? You take a developmental prospect and coach him up and keep him around if he shows any kind of promise. This team has been devastated by injuries at the CB position the past few years. This is almost certainly Douglas' last year here. It is not a position you can just hand wave away and say eh we'll figure it out. You have to evaluate who is the best talent that you have and keep them around as long as possible, especially on a cost controlled late draft pick rookie contract. It just blows my mind that McDermott's excuse boils down to "we drafted him to be a punt returner." So for that reason we'll totally ignore what he showed at the position that actually matters and keep Casey Toohill on the roster instead. It is bizarre decision making.

Wow I forgot that Cam Lewis made the roster. Yes that makes my decision even easier. Absolutely I would keep Hardy over him based on what I've seen. No question.

I'll drop it because I don't want to take over the entire thread. The last thing I'll say is that I really am not the type to ever get worked up over roster cuts. While others have been freaking out over Gore or Andreessen possibly being claimed by another team, I don't worry about that at all. This one is just so out of the blue and against all rationale that I can't begin to understand it. Hardy to my eyes has looked great and has inside/outside flexibility. Not just to my eyes either, anyone who's watched Bills preseason film has agreed that he has been a bright spot in every game. Fingers crossed he makes it through waivers because of the injury and we get him back on the PS. But I will die on the hill that it is a risk not worth taking.

I don't buy this excuse. I would rather just keep 7 DBs instead of keeping Toohill as the 10th DL. Hardy >>>>>>>> Toohill. The numbers game is meaningless when faced with that simple fact. I mean they could have just IR'd him if they didn't want to keep him on the initial roster. Ah but no we had to use that spot on our RB4. This is the capstone on a very perplexing offseason IMO.

That's a massive black mark againat this regime if true! Cutting a talented prospect at a premium position because his special teams play isn't good enough?? I'd rather my kicked McDermott in the nuts theory turn out to be correct than this.

Forget his kick returning. He looked great playing outside CB. Showed a real knack for zone transitions and got his hands on a lot of passes. Now I'll admit I did not happen to dive into Brandon Codrington film so maybe he's shown out too, but our own draft pick that we've spent the offseason developing performs as well as he has at a premium position and we just toss him to the curb? I am not one to get hung up on roster cuts but this one makes zero sense to me.

Only thing I can think is that as Hardy walked towards the x-ray room after the game he sought out McDermott and kicked him square in the nuts. That's the most logical explanation I can come up with.

Wow I do not understand the Hardy thing at all. Unless he's their wait in the parking lot cut to place someone else on IR and then re-sign him?

Sorry to be a wet blanket but I'll be surprised if he makes it to Labor Day on the active roster. There has to be a better LB available after cutdowns that can fill out the bottom of our room.

Most likely reason:

Oh yeah? Show me a single thread where the quality of our WRs is being discussed.

Incredible story for the young man. Transitioned to OT very late in his college career, was extremely rough around the edges on his technique, but came in and took Kromer's coaching and worked hard and transformed himself into a really nice developmental prospect. He has truly earned his spot on the roster.

Something to keep in mind with Frank Gore Jr: No pass blocking and no special teams. I remain convinced that we will have zero issues getting him through waivers.

I could see it based on the style of offense we are likely to run this year. Probably very little deep passing relative to what we're used to. I expect a ball control offense with a lot more running and quick passes to the short and intermediate areas. Most of Allen's INTs last year came on deep shots or under/over combos that a DB was able to easily read and undercut... and I don't expect either of those to be staples of our offense this year. I don't recall any INTs that Allen threw in the direction of a TE or Shakir last year and that is likely going to be the bulk of our offensive targets.

He sent it out in a text to subscribers.

Joe Marino is saying a source told him Daequan Hardy has an injury that might keep him out the first few weeks of the season... He speculates that could lead to Hamler making the roster as the punt returner.

I want to predict 1,000 yards but I think Knox will take some of that production away. I'll predict 86 catches on 115 targets for 915 yards and 4 TDs.

I could see us bringing Andre Smith back. LB depth that knows our system and plays special teams. I still think we enter the season with at least one LB that isn't already on the roster.

This is a no brainer if he's truly available. We have very little upside in the room as it stands today. Metchie gives us some upside. He has essentially been out of football for 2 years with just a bit of ramp up time last year so you have to think he would go for a later day three pick. As for the player he is basically an unknown but he showed enough in college to be drafted relatively high. Where is the downside here?

I don't think Andreessen has shown enough in pass coverage to get claimed elsewhere. If anything I am hoping we find the last LB on our roster from another team's cuts. All along I have wanted us to keep 6 LBs to protect against injury and I don't see 6 roster-worthy players in our current room. Honestly I struggle to even see 5. Almost zero chance Gore gets claimed IMO. Last year there were zero RBs claimed after cutdowns. He plays no special teams and has no high end physical traits.

More flashes from Tylan Grable in this game: We might really have something here.

Ty Johnson can field kickoffs so he automatically gets the 3rd spot over either of them. Gore is too slow to worry about losing to waivers. Evans has bounced around the bottom of rosters for several years now so I think we can get him to the PS, if not oh well. Every team has an RB4 that looks good going against future insurance agents. It is the last position to worry about losing a depth player.

If the rumors about Darius Slayton being a trade possibility are true, I would offer Elam and a 5th. The Giants need CB help. Haven't heard any other WR trade buzz. But it seems unthinkable that this will be the group we'll be entering the season with.

It was a better night for Darrynton Evans than Gore IMO. He showed burst and pass catching ability, look no further than his TD to see both on display. That is a more important skill set than plodding contact balance. Several times yesterday I saw Gore entering wide open turf but the space got swallowed up quickly because he couldn't burst through it. The next corner he turns will be the first. I think he easily makes it onto the PS. I'm a tad more concerned about Evans getting through waivers but ultimately I think they both make it. Ty Johnson still gets the 3rd RB spot because he can handle kickoffs. Side note - the play of Evans in preseason is why I'm not a fan of drafting a RB in the 4th round but it is what it is. On Andreessen - He looks totally lost in pass coverage. He has shown he can mostly diagnose run plays and shoot gaps but that isn't going to be enough to make an NFL team. As a smaller MLB he needs to be able to read all plays quickly or else he is in danger of getting washed out of the play. Hip movements look stiff to me too, if you compare it to say Terrel Bernard the difference is stark. On WRs - My god the room is even worse than I thought and you know I was already more pessimistic than most. Samuel's turf toe appears to be mostly minor, but the prospect of losing him for even one game has shown how distressingly thin we are at the position. Utter malpractice from this regime. We're an injury away from Deon Cain or KJ Hamler taking real snaps in an NFL game. Our top 2 in Shakir and Samuel have had what I would classify as good training camp and preseason but no one is mistaking them for superstars or guys that can carry the load. Outside we have a known JAG in Hollins and a rookie that is still very much developing, and that's it. If fans are expecting a Josh Allen led passing offense to automatically have top 5 production, I think they are in for a rude awakening. I'll also say that Elam indirectly had a bad night. Nothing that he did specifically, I know two catches were in his area of the field but not sure they were specifically his responsibility. But Ingram and Hardy both are out there making plays. Ingram played a fade route perfectly without committing a penalty like we have seen Elam do a dozen times, and against a legit NFL WR at that. Hardy has shown a knack for making those zone transitions that Elam has always struggled with. It's actually very impressive to watch a supposed slot prospect perfectly play the middle of an under/over combo outside and break on the ball in whichever direction the QB throws it. The Bills traditionally have kept 4 outside CBs active on gameday and I wonder if Elam will be the odd man out.