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HappyDays

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  1. 3 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

    highlight reels are fun,

     

    Zay's isn't bad either

     

     

    I mean I don't see any comparison between those highlight videos. JuJu makes a bunch of tough catches and shows more speed. Zay makes some competent plays. It's a world of difference.

    3 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said:

    In fact, he has good speed. He’s underrated with the ball in his hands and he’s better at separating than many are giving him credit for.

     

    I guess I don't remember any incredible plays he had with the ball in his hands, or any incredible catches. He is just a guy on the field. Defenses aren't watching film to figure out how to stop Zay Jones. That's why we signed John Brown and Cole Beasley. Defenses have to worry about them.

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  2. 9 hours ago, folz said:

    Honestly, I can understand people being down on Zay, as he has not lived up to his draft status yet. I just personally think he deserves one more year to prove it. He did improve from year 1 to year 2. And he wasn't meant to come in and be a #1 receiver in the league, but circumstances forced him into that role, which also meant that he was going against the best corners and maybe getting double teams before he was ready for that level. (And don't get me started again about the poor coaching he received.) Yes, a player like JuJu is way ahead of Zay right now, but how much easier was life for JuJu with HOFer AB on the opposite side of the field drawing all of the attention (not to mention having a HOF QB throwing to him instead of the likes of Tyrod, Peterman, Anderson, Barkley, and rookie Allen). I just think he deserves a year where the QB play and O-line play is better.

     

    He'll get the year to prove it but I can't imagine he beats out Brown or Foster for an outside starting role, and he's definitely not beating Beasley for the slot position. The fact that we gave two big contracts to receivers tells me this regime isn't going to wait for Zay to develop. Right now he's just depth in case of injury. He did improve in year 2, but only insofar as he went from historically bad to somewhat competent.

     

    JuJu makes plays happen:

     

     

     

    Yeah it helps having elite offensive talent around him. But look at these plays. I haven't seen Zay do anything like this.

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  3. 4 minutes ago, folz said:

    But I just can't figure out why any fan would be higher on McKenzie than Zay.

     

    McKenzie offers speed. When the ball is in his hands defenses have to pay attention. What does Zay bring to our offense? I don't understand any optimism for him. He has below average separation, catch ability, and speed. He is an average route runner. What does he do that's impressive?

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  4. 1 hour ago, formerlyofCtown said:

    However, if he shows improvement from last season to the end of camp then he isnt going anywhere.

     

    But where does he fit in as a starter? Foster, Brown, and Beasley are all ahead of him. Right now I'd pencil him in as our #4. If McDermott and Beane thought he was worth developing they wouldn't have overhauled the receiving group in free agency.

  5. 54 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

    Giants fleeced the Browns. A first, 3rd, and Peppers for a WR??? Holy hell

     

    I don't agree that the Browns were fleeced but I will say people are overreacting about how bad this is for the Giants. 2 fairly high picks for a WR that isn't going to be worth anything to them while they rebuild over the next couple years. I mean they should have drafted a QB last year, but since they didn't they might as well prepare for a couple bad seasons and stock draft picks for their future QB.

     

    Also not convinced on the Browns yet. Every year a dream team is formed and every year it fails. Rams came pretty close last year, that's about it.

  6. 2 hours ago, 100DollarBills said:

    Brown is virtually Foster and Beasley is virtually Jones. There is no upgrade. 

     

    If Brown is like Foster that means we actually have 2 starting outside receivers, which is a huge upgrade. And if Jones was a free agent he wouldn't come close to $7 million per year. This signing makes me think Zay is being phased out. They aren't waiting for him to "develop," they're going to cut their losses and move on. I love to see it.

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