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HappyDays

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  1. I don't know if we'll blow the doors off them but we should have complete control from start to finish. Fitz doesn't have the element of surprise this time around and their best WR is out for the season. My question is, is Daboll smart enough to pound the rock in this game? We don't need to air it out. Control the clock and score TDs on long drives and we'll win this one going away. I know the message this week was "play fearless" but this game doesn't require that.

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  2. 3 hours ago, MAJBobby said:


    but at end of the day played for a 53 yard FG to tie

    So McD does this mean you are going to actually go for Points at end of half instead of kneeling it out?

     

    They didn't play for a tie. I find it funny some people are criticizing the 20 yard throw in 3rd and 4 and others are criticizing them for playing too conservative. I mean I think they made a good play call and it just wasn't executed right. I don't think they intentionally trying to get a field goal.

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  3. 50 minutes ago, notwoz said:

    But I am saying that it was a legitimate question. Because the offense has not shown any marked improvement. 

     

    But that wasn't his question. His question was about stats in Tyrod's first 20 games vs Allen's stats in his first 20 games, specifically his yards per game. If you can't see on the face of it why that question is stupid there's no more conversation to be had.

  4. 34 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:

    What? My original point was that QB’s past year 2 do not take great leaps forward in ability in today’s NFL. Mahomes doesn’t invalidate that, he MAKES MY POINT. Unless you’re arguing he’s taken a leap from last year??

     

    No, you said project QBs never work out. Mahomes was a project QB. Actually Aaron Rodgers was a project QB who didn't start until after 3 years. There's another one. What's the excuse for why he doesn't count?

  5. 5 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:

    Mahomes did not require 3 years. He was better in his second start than every single one of Allen’s starts ever.

     

    Well this an entirely different point than what you just made, but sure. It's interesting how every example someone posted to counter your point about project QBs and improvement beyond year 2 has been hand waved away somehow.

  6. 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said:

    The fact of the matter is that “projects” do not and have not succeeded in the NFL in the last ten years. They just don’t. 

     

    I learned the hard way with Mahomes this is not true. He was a classic project QB that had to be developed for a year before even seeing the field. I felt the same way about him as I did about Allen. Now I'm keeping an open mind.

  7. 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said:

    That was 15 years ago hombre. The NFL has changed just a bit since 2004.

     

    What rule changes in the NFL have eliminated the ability to improve? This doesn't make any sense. And honestly Allen is a rare case. I'm not just saying that because he's on the Bills. Before we drafted him I thought whatever team took him would need to sit him for 2 years based on his history at the position. I wouldn't bet on him becoming a top 10 QB but if he keeps trending up I'm not looking elsewhere. Might as well enjoy the ride.

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  8. 5 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:

    Oh they absolutely did. I posted the stats up thread. Dalton and Tanny both made strides between years 1-3

     

    Yes, and then they plateaued or regressed. Allen might just keep improving. So I don't know what the discussion is about at this point. No one knows anything about how he'll end up. Until he stops improving he isn't going anywhere.

  9. Just now, BringBackOrton said:

    Andy Dalton hasn’t been very bad his whole career. Neither has Ryan Tannehill. Excellent news.

     

    But Dalton and Tannehill didn't improve. Allen has. Maybe he won't continue to improve. I'm not sure why anyone would presume to know either way. If you look at his short career 4 games at a time you will see consistent improvement at every step. The only time I've been really nervous is after the Pats game because it was a total regression on everything he'd learned but that turned out to be an outlier.

  10. 18 minutes ago, Putin said:

    BTW did anyone hear how great KB or Holmes are playing this year ? Since they were Allen’s  #1& # 2 WR’s last year 

     

    There was a point in 2017 where I said Andre Holmes was a poor man's version of Kelvin Benjamin. By the middle of last season I was saying the opposite.

  11. 5 hours ago, jrober38 said:

    My guess is that after the 2nd Pats game a lot more people are going to be questioning if our starting QB is actually any good. 

     

    I think this is a fair point. The 2nd Pats game is an opportunity for him to show measurable progress. If he fails again it will raise questions. Not saying we need to beat them for him to prove something but he should look much better than he did in week 4.

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