HappyDays

It is. Carl Cheffer's parents must be so proud.

He's in the photo, you just can't see him because he's laying on the ground.

Less than an hour after the Super Bowl and we're already deep into offseason speculation mode. I love this forum.

What are our thoughts after the Super Bowl? Nothing special from Mahomes today, just standing back with zero pressure and tossing the ball to completely wide open targets. We've seen him in a Super Bowl with the kind of OL Allen had this past season. It didn't end well. I stand by my claim that Allen is more valuable to his offense than any other player in the league.

I'm sorry man but that is a hatchet job. The ball was totally uncatchable.

That dumb timeout the Eagles took earlier to prevent a delay of game looms large now...

Yeah, well, we don't have 30 years to wait. I hate that we will have wasted a year (or more) of Allen's prime with an inexperienced play caller.

I hate them worse. The Pats were never a threat to our success, our own incompetence was. The Chiefs are in the way of our Super Bowl window and from talent evaluation to coaching they are doing it better than we are.

Like I said, nobody can defend this highly talented group of pass catchers.

Like I said, nobody can defend this highly talented group of pass catchers.

How is the Chiefs young secondary managing to defend Philly's highly talented group of pass catchers? Coaching.

I wasn't talking about who they give the award to, I was talking about who is actually responsible for most of their offense's success. I still say Allen. The Chiefs have been moving the ball like this all year, great pass protection and simple pass and catch. Mahomes is obviously elite so when they need him to make magic happen he can do it. But he has it a lot easier than Allen does on a play to play basis.

There's the MVP of football!

We are nowhere near the Eagles in talent evaluation and nowhere near the Chiefs in coaching. Depressing but true.

And see this is what I was saying in the MVP thread. Say what you about Mahomes' weapons, his pass protection and play calling is in a different league. That whole drive he didn't make any magic happen. Just stood back calmly and threw to the most wide open receivers you'll ever see. With Allen it's oh no better dodge that free rusher and then throw a 12 yard pass while sprinting to the right, and do this 10 times a game just to keep drives going.

Both QBs constantly have totally clean pockets. I forgot this is what football could look like.

100 years of football, the formula still hasn't changed. Strong in the trenches and run the ball successfully. Both offenses proving it tonight.

Just take the delay of game. A timeout in a close game in the Super Bowl is a lot more valuable than 5 yards. Coaches do this all the time.

Good thing they used that timeout to make sure they're 5 yards closer to a FG.

That's a stupid timeout on 3rd and 11. Better convert this or what was the point?

I mean they can do whatever they want on 3rd and short. It doesn't matter. They will sneak it for a free 4th down conversion 100% of the time.

Good work NFL. Literally nobody has any clue what a catch it. You ask me, the officials are flipping a coin off screen.

Wow that is two games in a row that an officiating mistake gifts KC a critical do-over on 3rd down. Weird how this always happens to them and only them.

Hurts is having himself quite a game. Only one mistake. Some great throws that are more than just schemed open throws. I'll give him some credit.

If they need 2 yards or less it is an automatic 1st down running the ball. It makes it so easy to call an offense when you have that built in cheat code.