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Are they getting motivated Aaron Rodgers? Or skip offseason workouts to drink ayahuasca Aaron Rodgers? The Packers offense didn't have a lot of talent last year but Rodgers was part of the problem too. It's an upgrade for the Jets either way but I'm not sure it's as big an upgrade as most people think.

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The problem with taking Dawand Jones at 27 is you're basically giving up on Spencer Brown. Two players that exclusively play RT, the 1st round pick is going to win that battle. I'm just not ready to give up on a raw physical specimen entering his 3rd year, and I doubt the Bills are either. Part of the draft investment is the time you spend developing that player. Losing Wyatt Teller didn't hurt because we wasted a 5th round pick, it hurt because we let another team enjoy the fruits of that development. I could see something similar happening with Brown if we give up on him now. Plus RT is a pretty easy position to fill, so the worst case scenario of missing out on Dawand Jones is we lose out on an easy to fill non-premium position. It's like losing out on a 1st round RB who goes on to be elite. It just doesn't hurt your team enough to be worth worrying about. The Chiefs had the 2nd best OL in the league with a meh RT.

Sure he did. Now we wait to see how much he's actually getting paid.

Everyone relax.

Personally I would rather just sign Jamaal Williams to play the same role for much cheaper. Use free agency money on OL and a WR.

This isn't loading for some reason, but the 2nd tweet is Mike Silver saying he doesn't believe the Bills will go after Derrick Henry.

https://twitter.com/NFLonCBS/status/1632783763938607107?t=dnY7GbbkU_UjV42yyTCTTA&s=19 https://twitter.com/MikeSilver/status/1632768617564749831?t=5bTXCSfw8kCQadzP-tX3NA&s=19

Joe Marino brought up a good name - Jamaal Williams from Detroit. He immediately solves our short yardage/goal line running problem. He's projected to get something like 2 years $8.5 million.

For me on defense it is not about filling holes, it is about filling in a missing "type" of player. The kind that is okay getting in the face of opponents AND teammates and that opposing players are afraid to be hit by. We are missing size and physicality on defense. Many of us want the defense to start playing more of an attack style instead of a passive style against top offenses. Getting a big brute in the middle of the defense would be a good starting point. Drafting a safety in the 1st I agree that would give me the sense of Beane just trying to fill a hole and personally I wouldn't be happy with that pick. The one that has been named, Antonio Johnson, I don't see a ceiling for him where he becomes a truly game changing player. You almost have to be an all-time great to be a game changer at safety. I think I would take any other position, even RB, before considering safety in the 1st.

I hear you. Hypothetically what if in FA we sign OBJ and Isaac Semeulo (or equivalent talents at the same positions), plugging our two biggest offensive holes before the draft? Then would you feel more comfortable with defense at pick 27?

This is a bummer: I saw him mocked to the Bills a few times on day two. Now he's probably a mid day three prospect.

I just put on a video of him and wow I found my newest draft crush. TE wasn't even on my radar in the 1st but his motion looks so fluid and he looks so natural plucking the ball out of the air. You think he complements Knox well if we want to do more 12 personnel? At pick 27 we might have to settle for a weird position like TE or LB if we want to maximize the value of the pick. If the goal is offense only I'd be happy picking a potentially elite pass catching TE like Kincaid and figure out how to fit him into our roster.

This is the spot I'm at as well. The more I look at the class the more I find it hard to believe a 1st round caliber WR or OL will be there at pick 27. Those positions are too valuable. Last year I thought for sure Jahan Dotson would be a possibility for us and instead he went several picks before. It's why I'm thinking as much as most Bills fans would hate it we may be forced to take a front 7 player to use the value of our pick properly.

If they want their next MLB to do exactly what Edmunds did then yeah Campbell probably isn't a good fit. But part of me thinks/hopes that with Edmunds moving on they are going to modify their scheme a bit to let the MLB play a more traditional role. I'm not asking for an entirely new scheme but some change-ups would be welcome lest we become stale. In that case are you more open to Campbell? I'm no scout, I just see a player that sets the tone for his defense and plays with instinctual awareness that puts him in position to force turnovers.

I don't think Beane will draft a safety in the 1st round. They've gotten production out of that position from exclusively late round picks. He has treated 1st round picks with proper positional value every year so I'll be surprised if he suddenly breaks that trend. So what do you in the event that all the top WRs and OL are off the board? In that scenario we are either looking at a trade down, or drafting the best front 7 player available. I created this thread because to a lot of Bills fans an offensive player is a foregone conclusion at pick 27. But the board could fall a certain way to where there is no value left on offense. And then Nolan Smith, Lukas Van Ness, Jack Campbell, a player like that could seriously be in contention.

Most Bills fans understandably want an offensive player in the 1st round. I get it. But if the board falls a certain way, is there any defensive player realistically available at pick 27 that you would be happy with? I have mentioned elsewhere that my guy on defense is LB Jack Campbell. He wouldn't be my first preference at pick 27 but I've grown to like him enough that I would be happy with him as the pick there. He brings a size and physicality to the defense that we don't currently have and I think filling that missing element is just as important as filling some of our holes on offense.

Man I am going to talk myself into wanting a MLB at the end of the 1st round. I know a defensive pick would bring criticism. But if Campbell becomes the tone setter on defense that I think he'll be it would be a game changer.

There sure are a lot of small "quicker than fast" WRs in this draft that look to be better fits in the slot for the NFL. Who are the day 1 and 2 guys that project to be possible true #1 outside WRs? Quentin Johnston, Cedric Tillman, who else?

I remember you being very high on Justin Jefferson who some saw as a slot only WR, so I hold this opinion in high regard. I don't like taking a slot only WR in the 1st but if JSN can play outside I would love that pick. You could effectively get a Diggs replicant on the other side of the field.

Be honest - when you put that thread title together, what kind of reaction did you expect?

For me Jalin Hyatt is the obvious selection if he's still there. I see the same criticisms about him that I remember seeing about DK Metcalf - he plays in a college offense and runs a limited route tree. I'm not making a 1:1 comparison to Metcalf but my point is analysts overthink this stuff. I see a player that runs really fast, tracks the ball, has great hands, and plays with a high level of competitiveness. The rest can be figured out.