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To me this would be a very uninspiring 1st round pick. A 24 year old rookie who has only ever played center. I would rather let Bates take over at center in 2024 than reach for one in the 1st round. Schmitz is a player I would be fine with at pick 59.

I don't know, Beane seems to value arm length. I know they drafted Shakir last year but that was a day three pick. Not sure he'd spend a 1st round pick on a player with such a severe physical limitation.

Sure, but I think people have a tendency to way overthink this stuff. It happened with DK Metcalf too. "We don't know if he can run every route." Well, turns out he's pretty damn good at the ones he does run. Hyatt can run lightning fast, he tracks the deep ball very well, he has good hands, he's competitive on the field, he has proven production against top college defenses. Sounds like a no brainer to me. But again, "we don't know if he can run every route." Take the obvious pro traits and figure out the rest.

"Run stops" is a PFF metric. It isn't just the number of tackles you make on a run play. This is their definition: "PFF describes a ‘stop' as an offensive gain on first down that is kept to less than 40 percent of the line to gain, less than 50 percent of the line to gain on second down and any third- or fourth-down play kept without a first down or touchdown." By their metrics Rousseau led all edge rushers in total run stops and run stop percentage in his rookie season.

That top speed statistic is intriguing. I was disappointed by his 4.40 40 time. But maybe he is just a little slow to accelerate. I've come back around to loving the idea of Hyatt at pick 27. He needs to eventually develop a lot more route concepts to prove worthy of that high selection but even as a rookie I think his current skill set fits really well into this offense.

Your post proves the opposite of the point you're trying to make. Other than DK Metcalf (and Diontae Johnson, who doesn't belong on this list), all of these players were drafted well before pick #59. And Metcalf didn't fall because of talent, he fell because of a medical red flag. There's usually a big run on WRs from pick 33 to 50. It's the kind of premium position where by the time you get to round 3 you're already looking at round 4 grades on your board. So the reality is that in the area the Bills are picking in the 2nd round, it's usually a dead zone for WR talent. And as long as Allen is in his prime it's hard to imagine us picking much higher than #59. So if we ever want a true game changing player at the position on a rookie deal we will either have to draft one in the 1st round or get lucky with a random day three prospect. Your example Christian Watson is actually a good example of what I'm saying - he was a 2nd round WR that the Bills would have had to take in the 1st round to have a chance at him.

Is that a fact? Diggs is in a league of his own. Corey Davis and Gabe Davis are the same caliber of player. Allen Lazard is fine. Mecole Hardman, fine. Meh. They're maybe equally talented WR corps with opposite problems - the Bills don't have enough good talent behind Diggs, the Jets have a lot of good talent but nothing top tier (unless Garrett Wilson steps into that stratosphere this season, which is possible). The Jets defense is for real. But people are way overrating the talent they have on offense. Still question marks on the OL, they don't have a true difference maker in their skill positions, Breece Hall may not be the same player until 2024. It isn't a totally solid group. Just a lot of potential with a wild card at QB.

I have to ask anyone who places Burrow over Allen, have you watched his last two playoff losses? He didn't play very well against the Rams. Against the Chiefs he threw up two stupid balls to no one that got intercepted. Both of those games were there to be had if Burrow played better. I find it weird that no one ever talks about this and he just gets a pass.

Oh jeez I just looked at the full mock, he has Luke Musgrave going 28th overall?? I don't know if that's so crazy that it must be possible, or if it's just crazy. I guess after Payton Turner and Cole Strange anything is possible.

I just can't excited about a slot only WR in the 1st round. It's an easy role to fill. The Chiefs got JuJu Smith-Schuster for basically $4 million. We got Beasley for $7.5 million AAV in his prime, and he was easily the best slot only WR in the league at his best. I wouldn't take Beasley even in his prime for a 1st round pick. He played a valuable role but not THAT valuable. That's the ceiling of what Downs could give us. No way I'm happy with that pick.

I'm totally on the fence about how this move makes me feel. I could see it making the Jets a really scary Super Bowl caliber team. I could also see it crashing and burning and leading to a total house cleaning at the end of the season. And anything in between.

This is quite the steal. Personally I believe Houston will take Tyree Wilson at #2. DeMeco Ryans wants his Nick Bosa for his new team. Wilson is as close as you can get to that kind of prospect, just not as refined as Bosa coming out.

No way this is true... right? If you assume Robinson and Gibbs are both 1st round picks, this would mean only one WR drafted in the 1st.

So I do see pass rushing DT specifically as a premium position, although I understand traditionally it isn't seen that way. I just think in this day and age the best way to disrupt a QB is pressure up the middle.

DL could certainly be the pick at 27. Not because it's a glaring need though. Because DL is ALWAYS a need for every team all the time, and it's a premium position that has a huge impact on each game, and this draft in particular appears to have a lot of DL that fits into the late 1st/early 2nd grade bucket. It isn't likely that any one offensive player is going to be sticking out on the board at 27. It might be a scenario where we either draft DL, or reach down a full round grade just to pick offense for purported need. No question in my mind I'll take the highest graded player at a premium position every time in that scenario.

I like the first 3 picks a lot. I would take that now if I could. I don't know enough about the round 4 and beyond players to say if I like those picks. I'm surprised by how many people have grown to hate Quentin Johnston as a prospect. Feels like early in the process he was the clear #1 WR, and now he's a guaranteed Kevin White level bust. I understand the body catching and the hands. But everything else about him gives you true WR1 potential. The Bills have needed a YAC receiver that can play outside since John Brown fell off a cliff. Out of the realistic options, to me Johnston is the ideal 1st round pick for us. Fills a need, great upside, immediately adds a play style that doesn't currently exist on the roster. What am I missing? Addison is the opposite of how I feel about Johnston. Everyone else loves him as a potential pick for us. Me, I struggle to see a high ceiling and question how well his body type will hold up in the pros. It feels like a very safe pick, like the player he is in year one is the player he'll always be. I guess that's fine... just not my cup of tea in the 1st round. Not as much as to say on Martin and Saldiveri, just that I know I want us to draft a replacement for Poyer or Hyde this year and I know that I want OL drafted somewhere in the mid rounds. If you took Bergeron in the 2nd round and a safety prospect in the 3rd round I'd be good with that too.

I remember the last time the Bills passed on a great TE with back issues. I highly doubt Kincaid will still be on the board at 27 but if he is it's hard to imagine him not sticking out as the BPA. It might feel like a weird pick with Knox already locked up on an extension, but you simply can't pass up on a pass catcher with that level of talent in a weak draft whether TE is a glaring need or not.

A poster on here explained that the PED he took is not the kind players take for general performance, it's the kind you take to recover faster from a hamstring injury. If that's true I wouldn't worry about his level of play falling off a cliff just because he will be tested more now. When he came back from his suspension he played great. The Cardinals still tried to make him the focal point of the offense which tells you what the coaches thought of him after seeing him everyday in practice. It wasn't a Julio Jones to the Titans situation where they actively ignored him in their game plans. Hopkins' biggest issue was crap QB play and I think he checked out at the end of the year. Anyways fans always come up with reasons not to obtain great players. Von Miller was past his prime when the Rams traded for him. Christian McCaffrey was injury prone when the 49ers traded for him. OBJ was washed up when the Rams signed him. Kadarius Toney was injury prone and a malcontent when the Chiefs traded for him. Stefon Diggs was a problem child when we traded for him. All of these players made their teams substantially better. Eventually you just have to accept the risk and make the move that puts your team over the top.

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This one makes the most sense. If they really like Paris Johnson they could trade the 1st they got from Carolina in 2024 (or their own 2024 1st) to move up to #3. They come away with DJ Moore, Paris Johnson, plus an extra 2nd in 2023 and 2025. That's quite the haul for Ryan Poles. Plus they still have a 1st rounder next year if they need to move on from Justin Fields.

Yeah he was only sacked 3 times, but he was running for his life on almost every play which made the offense completely non-functional. Sacks may be a QB number, but elite pass rush is going to **** up the offensive game plan no matter who the QB is. Bills/Jags from 2021 was the same story. The Eagles had an elite pass rush but were almost totally stonewalled, even though Mahomes had a high ankle sprain and wasn't as mobile as usual. Part of it was the Chiefs OL but mostly the field conditions made it an unfair fight. No doubt in my mind if Super Bowl XLII had been played on that field, the Patriots would have an undefeated season to their name. My point is that pass rush isn't suddenly a non-factor in the NFL just because of one data point from a game that was played in uncommonly bad field conditions. It's still arguably the second most valuable factor in any game. Too many people are pointing to that game and saying "see, this proves defense and/or pass rush doesn't matter" which is a ridiculous conclusion for a number of reasons.