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If Mahomes had lost against the Jets he arguably would have been the biggest reason for it. His offense scored less against the Jaguars than ours did. Defense was the difference in those results, not the QB play. But that underscores my point - MVP is a subjective award that favors wins, not actual QB play. Purdy and Tua as recently as three weeks ago were #1 and #2 in MVP odds... It's a silly award. As far as who has actually been the best QB over 8 weeks of play I don't think anyone has been better than Allen, but there's a couple he might be even with. Even Cousins deserves some flowers but he never had a real chance at the award because of his team's defense and running game.

That's not a counterpoint lol... it's an entirely different point. I don't disagree either, but like I said none of the QBs in the competition have played clean football and all of them have been at least partially responsible for their losses.

If our defense had simply stopped Mac Jones in a 2 minute drill Allen would probably be the MVP favorite right now. Which shows you how pointless the award really is. But ultimately it is still likely to be the QB of the #1 seed in either conference, like it usually is. Part of me wonders if we'll finally get a non-QB MVP this year? McCaffrey? Hill? No one QB is clearly dominating the competition.

You have some really weird hyperbolic crusades.

He had more YPG than Gabe Davis last year. With an awful QB throwing him the ball.

Their offense has had issues all year. They moved the ball against the Bears and Chargers, but so does everyone. Their defense has been winning games for them. Their issue is they have no above average pass catchers behind Kelce and their OL isn't playing as well.

Oh no! Mahomes' pass catcher dropped a pass on 4th down and it looks like he might lose to an inferior divisional opponent on the road.

Great! He's a jackass that gets open and catches the ball, when it's thrown near his hands at least.

Russ is awful!! He has Jeudy WIDE OPEN on a quick slant and throws it at his feet. Then takes a brutal sack on 3rd down to take them out of FG range. I would easily give up our 2nd for Jeudy right now. He is being wasted with a bad QB. But if Denver pulls this one out do they still want to trade people away?

Meh. I think the chance of Pratt getting his arm to the ball and then also picking it off are pretty small. I won't fault a QB for trying to make a play even if the result was bad.

I agree Purdy is average at best but that INT was more just an incredible job by Pratt than anything Purdy did.

One good thing about this inevitable Chiefs win is the Broncos have no reason to hang on to Jeudy. Season is over for them if that wasn't already obvious.

Yeah there's a weird phenomenon here will someone will excuse our defense by saying one of the TDs they gave up came after a turnover or a punt return that gave the offense good field position. As if that means the defense had no chance.

Jeudy is open constantly, Russ just misses the pass. He would look much better with a real QB throwing him the ball.

And then how do you not dive for the 1st there? He just doesn't care anymore.

God, Russ really sucks. How do you underthrow that so bad?

Sugar high Pat

What would you call that play with Dawkins moving to block to the right?

They can't overturn that Jeudy TD. Looks like the left foot keeps dragging after the bobble.

Mahomes throws the ball late and high which allows the defender to put a big hit and force the fumble on MVS.

I hope Atlanta comes back so that Tennessee goes into fire sale mode. Hopkins is still a great WR and would fit in perfectly here.

Yes but with the clock run way down at that point. When up by 2 scores in the 4th quarter you use the clock as another defender.

One thing I appreciate about both Shakir and Kincaid is their understanding of body control and leverage at the catch point. That ability to catch the ball and immediately start moving to the cleanest window to maximize YAC is impressive, and something that has been sorely lacking from our offense.

We aren't aspiring for the norm. We're trying to be a Super Bowl contender. Teams like Miami and Philly are our competition for that goal... So when you use those teams as examples, you're proving the point. We have to beat those teams to achieve our final goal. Hard to do that when they're starting off with such a huge advantage over us in that one key area.