HappyDays

Mahomes and Kelce were both at the World Series game in Texas on Friday night, before having to fly out and play a game on Sunday in Colorado... Not a good look.

1) First failed drive Diggs failed to separate and/or win at the catch point on two consecutive passes past the sticks. We went to our best guy and he didn't make a play. 2) Bizarre end of quarter sequence where we needlessly tried to draw the Bucs Offside on 2nd and 1, ended up in 3rd and long and then on 4th and 4 we punted. 3) Threw a 7 yard completion on 3rd and 9, punted on 4th and 2. In a tight game we almost certainly would have gone for it but in this one we were playing the clock and field position. 4) We got one 1st down and then ran 3 times to run the clock down. Not really any worrying trends on those drives IMO. Diggs didn't make a play when given two chances and we know he isn't a problem. A flukey attempt to draw them Offside bit us in the ass. And then we got conservative and played the clock. The one concern coming out of this game is that we have no deep game anymore with this personnel, so we have to execute at a really high level on each drive and there's very little margin for error when you're playing that style of offense.

This is a Ken Dorsey stat:

Bills have apparently shown interest in CB Jaylon Johnson.

Us finishing ahead of KC only matters if we win our division... KC already has that locked up by default. So I'm rooting for them over Miami next week. I'll worry about seeding in January.

Joe Marino made a good point on the latest Locked On Bills podcast. Allen has had terrible interception luck this year. Every play that could have been intercepted has been, and a couple that shouldn't have been intercepted were. None of his interception chances have been dropped or overturned by penalty (EDIT: I just remembered he had one overturned by penalty in the Raiders game, but I believe that's all). He pointed out that Allen's turnover worthy play percentage as measured by PFF is actually LOWER than his true INT%... as far as I know this is unprecedented bad turnover luck. There's an easy argument to be made that Allen is in the middle of the best season of his career if you're evaluating his own play in a vacuum.

Yes, I do. I watched both of them in full from start to finish. Mahomes had a bad INT turned over by a questionable penalty. His fumble was recovered by the offense. I don't expect MVP voters to pay attention to chance outcomes like that. But if we're talking objectively I thought that both Allen and Mahomes made bad decisions that could/should have put their teams in position to lose the game, as well as several amazing plays that gave their teams a chance to win. I feel that other circumstances ultimately determined those outcomes more than any difference in the QB play. How about the fact that in Allen's divisional road loss to an inferior team he at least put his team in position to win? Mahomes never really gave his team a chance and that first INT he threw was easily just as bad as Allen's against the Pats. Again, even though the outcomes were the same, I can easily say Allen played better at the end. But MVP voters won't care.

This is a good chance for me to let people know that I will always post anything I hear. If I see your request for more info and don't respond it's not because I don't see your request, it's because responding to all of them would clog up the board. Just know that if I have info I will always post it in a relevant thread.

My jinx powers never fail me.

If Mahomes had lost against the Jets he arguably would have been the biggest reason for it. His offense scored less against the Jaguars than ours did. Defense was the difference in those results, not the QB play. But that underscores my point - MVP is a subjective award that favors wins, not actual QB play. Purdy and Tua as recently as three weeks ago were #1 and #2 in MVP odds... It's a silly award. As far as who has actually been the best QB over 8 weeks of play I don't think anyone has been better than Allen, but there's a couple he might be even with. Even Cousins deserves some flowers but he never had a real chance at the award because of his team's defense and running game.

That's not a counterpoint lol... it's an entirely different point. I don't disagree either, but like I said none of the QBs in the competition have played clean football and all of them have been at least partially responsible for their losses.

If our defense had simply stopped Mac Jones in a 2 minute drill Allen would probably be the MVP favorite right now. Which shows you how pointless the award really is. But ultimately it is still likely to be the QB of the #1 seed in either conference, like it usually is. Part of me wonders if we'll finally get a non-QB MVP this year? McCaffrey? Hill? No one QB is clearly dominating the competition.

You have some really weird hyperbolic crusades.

He had more YPG than Gabe Davis last year. With an awful QB throwing him the ball.

Their offense has had issues all year. They moved the ball against the Bears and Chargers, but so does everyone. Their defense has been winning games for them. Their issue is they have no above average pass catchers behind Kelce and their OL isn't playing as well.

Oh no! Mahomes' pass catcher dropped a pass on 4th down and it looks like he might lose to an inferior divisional opponent on the road.

Great! He's a jackass that gets open and catches the ball, when it's thrown near his hands at least.

Russ is awful!! He has Jeudy WIDE OPEN on a quick slant and throws it at his feet. Then takes a brutal sack on 3rd down to take them out of FG range. I would easily give up our 2nd for Jeudy right now. He is being wasted with a bad QB. But if Denver pulls this one out do they still want to trade people away?

Meh. I think the chance of Pratt getting his arm to the ball and then also picking it off are pretty small. I won't fault a QB for trying to make a play even if the result was bad.

I agree Purdy is average at best but that INT was more just an incredible job by Pratt than anything Purdy did.