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Here's another screenshot: Defenses are doubling Diggs and no one else can get open against man coverage. The Giants secondary is pretty good but not that good. We just don't have the horses.

I think the problem is we don't have the personnel to play a rhythm offense and that's what you need under center. Diggs gets open in rhythm, the other guys do not.

Throwing on the move is inherently not an easy throw. We are just spoiled by Allen's ability to make it look easy. Those sorts of throws are never going to have consistently precise ball placement. So as I said in another thread, you need dependable targets on the other end of those. Knox is not a dependable target. His awkward falling to the ground and letting the ball bounce out of his hands is a typical play for him. Why should he ever be the player we are relying on to ice the game?

Sure. A good WR3 takes advantage of attention given to better pass catchers around him and lesser coverage from depth CBs. That's Davis in a nutshell. His most efficient year was as a rookie in 2020 when he would regularly end up streaking wide open downfield because defenses had so much else to worry about. When defenses can focus on stopping him because he's a full time #2, he loses those advantages and ends up looking like a marginal player.

Part of calling an offense is knowing your players and knowing who consistently makes those mistakes. That 3rd down was basically THE play of the game for our offense, the difference between icing it or forcing Bass into a 50+ yard kick and NY getting the ball back. On a critical play like that you have to be smart enough to know that Knox is not a dependable pass catcher on a good day, and tonight he's got a wrist injury on top of his usual ineptitude. So the overall concept of targeting an undependable player like Knox on THE play of the game was fundamentally flawed. I know people like to make fun of Allen for almost always looking at Diggs first, but why wouldn't he? Dependable targets should get the ball funneled to them. Diggs, then Cook/Murray in the run game, then the scraps to everybody else.

Let's also remember that McDermott signs off on these plays. We have been running short yardage plays from shotgun for several weeks now, it was not a one time brain fart from Dorsey. It's still happening which means McDermott is allowing it. At some point the head coach needs to step up and say enough is enough.

Felt like we went more run heavy in the 2nd half, no? With a few absurd throws from Allen mixed in. Our normal rhythm passing offense did almost nothing positive tonight. Nearly every bright spot on offense came from the run game or Allen making magic happen.

1) We need more creative route combinations. The passing offense is so basic. There is rarely any motion or misdirection. Too much reliance on guys to just win their 1v1s. 2) Commit to the run more, especially when the LBs are constantly dropping back. Cook is by far our 2nd best offensive weapon. That's more a comment on the other weapons than on him, but still we might as well use our best options. 3) Most importantly IMO is we need an improvement on Davis as WR2. He had one of his patented missing in action games tonight and actually was a net negative for the team. Knox is somehow even less dependable than Davis. Kincaid is an afterthought. Harty/Shakir/Sherfield are JAGs. They have nobody to step up on a play to play basis when defenses take Diggs away. It's a massive handicap.

I thought he was alright. Had some easier matchups than last week and held his own for the most part. A couple major blemishes including almost giving the game away at the end, but on a play to play basis he was fine.

You have to give yourself a chance to keep the clock running. We ran the only possible series of plays (pass followed by an attempted FG) that could give the Giants good field position with 1 TO remaining. Any other possible outcome was better than that. Our offense has been awful most of the night and Knox has not been dependable at all this year. Bass already has a missed kick tonight. So why are we calling two plays that rely on Knox and then Bass to win the game for us? It's awful coaching. Follow the advantage you have in the game which for us was that the Giants offense mostly looked hopeless. Give them the ball with 1 minute left no TOs and starting from inside the 20. Easy choice against a team like this.

It really wasn't though. We are spoiled by Allen's ability to throw on the run. It is inherently not a mechanically sound way to throw the ball, but he can do it so we call some plays to take advantage of that ability. But going back to that well over and over again is naturally going to invite variance in the accuracy of the throws... so you better have dependable targets on the other end of those that can find a way to bring the catch in. Knox of course is the opposite of dependable. So it's a poor target priority on that throw in that situation.

Knox has arguably been the worst player on the offense this year, out of like 15 different players.

I am somewhat happy to see them pull out an ugly wim, but obviously taking the last two games together we have some major concerns to address on both sides of the ball. And IMO a lot of it starts with coaching. Individual players making exceptional plays more than coaching won us this one.

His clock management in the final 2 minutes was just awful. Run it three times and punt. Why would you put faith in the playcaller and the offensive weapons to execute a pass play?

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Shotgun run! It's hilarious at this point.

Our run defense isn't great. We know this. We expect our offense to build a big enough lead that the run defense becomes moot.

What is Dorsey thinking? Just QB sneak it 4 times. He needs to go.

Everything looks better from under center. I think it gives the RBs a better chance of and the multi step drop gets Allen in rhythm. I'm not going to pretend to know if there's a specific schematic advantage, but you can't say you don't see that our offense looks better from under center.

The worst part is I don't know what we can do to fix this. They know our plays. Anyone on the team not named Diggs can't get open. Dorsey refuses to commit to under center and runs.

Yeah on the replay it is clear that the LBs knew exactly where to drop after the ball was thrown. The offense is a complete train wreck right now. It has not looked this bad since 2019.

Why are we in shotgun in short yardage? It worked out, barely, but that's an awful play call.

Nicely done Dorsey!! He knew that if we ran a bunch of long developing pass plays, it was fairly likely that we would get a RTP call.

Defense is controlling the game. Offense has no plan.

We have run that exact play to Diggs for 4 years now. It isn't fooling anybody.