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Kelce is toast but you're using Diggs as your counter example? Next time just tell us you haven't watched a lot of Bills or Chiefs games this year and save us the effort.

Nobody on the Bills other than Allen is playing close to a Hall of Fame level this year. That is a patently ridiculous thing to say.

Their defense is seriously impressing me. No hand waving away their performance tonight. The offense I agree with you, they have been gifted several easy opportunities and the 49ers seemingly are not even trying to contain Lamar in the pocket.

Not really close to calling him a #1 at this point. A slot only WR of his stature, he will have to be as good as Cooper Kupp to earn that label.

Whelp this is turning into the most impressive win of the season for any team. I hope the Ravens defense has the same energy next week. Fighting for the #1 seed, I'm sure they will bring their A game.

Yeah they have four 1st rounders as their WR depth chart. They're lacking a true #1 though.

The 49ers seemingly forgot that you have to contain Lamar Jackson. I've criticized McDermott plenty but this is something he understands better than anyone.

Another dropped INT from a defense not playing the Bills. Do INTs actually happen to other teams or are they a myth? Because every time I'm watching a game I watch one hit the turf.

I'm well aware turnovers matter lol. I'm just saying the turnovers conversation around Josh Allen this year in particular is WAY overblown. He has like 12 interceptable passes thrown this year. That is not a bad rate at all when he's also cashing in 40+ TDs and carrying a talent deficient offense on his back. Every single year the best QBs in the league also top the INTs chart. Allen is usually a couple ahead of the others but that slight difference is not really significant in the context of an entire season. His difference in total TDs on the other hand is massively significant.

He's been terrible this game. At least half his passes have been off the mark. He handed the other team 2 points.

Only one of those was really an egregious pass, though. That's the point. That's why turnover worthy plays is tracked.

I'm not talking about a one season statistical bump. I'm talking about an entire play style. Allen is always going to have more INTs than most QBs, just like he is always going to have more TDs than most QBs.

Don't worry, I gave the post the exact amount of attention it deserved.

I mean all he has do is not turn the ball over. He's one of like 3 QBs that has zero reason to push the envelope and he's done it multiple times in this game.

This is like three combined strawman arguments and addresses nothing in my post at all. It has been well established that you will not be satisfied unless Allen is literally the greatest QB in the history of the NFL. I would like that too. But I prefer to talk in reality.

He has been straight up terrible so far. I hope he gives a much better performance next week.

I can't remember the last time we had practically an entire drive gifted to us on penalties

If the voters give the MVP award to a QB this year they should just change the name of the award once and for all.

Whelp Lamar has been brutally bad to start this game

The 49ers have 4 skill players that would probably be the best skill player on our team right now. 3 for sure, Aiyuk a maybe.

Lamar air mails a pass over the head of an open WR on 3rd down

If Allen starts thinking more and taking safe throws he is no longer an elite QB. You can't take away some of his INTs without also taking away some of his TDs. This is especially true because our group of skill players is currently below average and our OL is decent but not great. The offense has a crazy low margin for error which means Allen HAS to push the envelope to score points. There is no other way. Also it should be pointed out again that Allen's turnover luck has been bad in an unprecedented way. ZERO dropped INTs. As far as I know that has never happened before. His turnover worthy play rate is LOWER than his actual turnover rate. Again, that is unprecedented bad luck. With even average turnover luck he would probably have about 5 INTs less than he has right now and we wouldn't even be having this conversation this year, in fact he would probably be the leading MVP candidate. I know it's hard to take a complicated view of things but this conversation is nowhere near as simple as "Josh just needs to stop throwing so many INTs." Not even close. For me the only thing I wish is that he would be more reserved against awful opponents like the Jets week 1 and the Chargers last week. Mahomes for the first time in his career has to play with a below average group of skill players and OL. It isn't a coincidence he is throwing more stupid looking INTs this year. He has no choice but to push the envelope. Like I've said many many times Allen and Mahomes the past 3 years or so have played at a very similar level. The difference in team results over that period is exclusively because of other factors that have nothing to do with QB play. Both offenses would likely be bottom of the league bad this year if not for the greatness of their QBs.

I'm not 100% certain he is better than Tyrod Taylor right now

The AFC/NFC dichotomy is so weird this year. I think it's a lot harder to make it into the playoffs in the AFC, but once you're in it's an easier path to the Super Bowl. And for the NFC it's the exact opposite.