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Problem with him is he's likely slot only at the next level. Same with McConkey and Pearsall. Every year there are like 4-5 slot only WRs that fanbases fall in love with. It's a pretty easy position to fill with a small amount of effort. I'm good with Shakir manning that spot for the next two years, then rinse and repeat on day 3 of the draft.

You are overselling this. The Chiefs were up by 10 coming out of halftime... Andy Reid is smart enough to know that is nothing in the playoffs. At that point, before Flowers fumbled into the endzone effectively ending the game, the Chiefs knew they would likely need one more TD to put the game away. Instead they started the 2nd half with a 3 and out. Then they had their next drive stall out at midfield. Then they had another 3 and out on the next drive. Only after this 3rd failed drive did Flowers fumble the game away. So sure if you want to make the argument that they played conservative after that, that's reasonable. But those first 3 drives were critical and the Ravens defense just kept making stops. Compare that sequence to the Chiefs 2nd half against us. They started the 2nd half with two consecutive zero-resistance TD drives. Their 3rd drive after our failed fake punt they again were moving the ball at will and only stalled out because of Hardman's dumb mistake. The two defensive performances are really not comparable at all. At the same critical juncture in each game, one defense held firm, while the other defense got their teeth knocked out. There's no reason to think the Chiefs were just not trying as hard against the Ravens. Those were legitimate stops... The deep completion to MVS on the final drive has no relevance. But hey I don't blame just coaching. Look at the true down-to-down game changers the Chiefs fielded against us: Mahomes Kelce Jones Sneed Thuney Humphrey Compared to the true game changers we fielded against them: Allen You can quibble on a couple names on the Chiefs list, but you can't quibble that Allen was the only true game changer for us down the stretch. I know you are a believer in top end talent mattering more than depth. Measuring ours against theirs, it is no contest. The Chiefs also had a proper FG kicker and we didn't. Given those disadvantages it's a damn miracle that we only lost by 3. A miracle created by Allen putting on another all-world performance that (again) was wasted by an abysmal defensive showing. This is why I have no patience for anyone that says the difference between Mahomes and Allen is why the Bills can't get past the Chiefs. It is quite clearly the difference between everything else around them. In this game given how it went, I would easily trade any of the following players for their equal on the Chiefs before I would trade Allen for Mahomes (in order from most impactful to least): Kincaid for Kelce Oliver for Jones Klein for Bolton Jackson for Sneed Sherfield for MVS Bass for Butker I would also take Reid over Brady (obviously) and Spagunolo over McDermott (I know you likely disagree with this but to me it's not really debateable). I 100% believe that if you trade everything EXCEPT the QBs in the 2021 and 2023 seasons, the Bills would already have one Super Bowl ring and be on their way to a possible 2nd.

Gibbs was a bad pick... Without question. The Lions lost the NFCCG because they lacked talent at outside WR and CB. Emmanuel Forbes Christian Gonzalez Jordan Addison Deonte Banks Joey Porter Jr Those are 1st round players that could have helped them last year and possibly the next decade. I'll throw Lukas Van Ness and Will McDonald in as well because an edge rusher opposite Hutchinson is also a huge need. It's 2024... You just don't draft RBs in the 1st round anymore, certainly not in the top 12.

Meh I couldn't care less at DC. The buck stops with McDermott on the defense. It's like Andy Reid hiring an OC... No one cares. On offense I agree, I wanted a more exhaustive search. I like Babich because he has a strong resume of developing players. Keeping him in the building is more important than you give it credit for.

If Quinyon Mitchell builds on his performance today I think he could sneak into the top 12.

Except Hyde was a 5th round pick that we got for $6.1M AAV back in 2017. I don't care how good he ends up, you don't draft a hybrid CB/S in the 1st round. We have such little cap space that positional value in this draft will matter more than ever.

WR Xavier Legette apparently struggled today. Although I saw a couple other people saying none of his vertical routes were catchable, so 🤷‍♂️

Slot WRs are the one position that I don't read anything into from Senior Bowl practices. Those 1v1 drills are handmade for them to show off their skill set. Pearsall and McConkey would fit into that bucket.

Day 1 of practices just concluded. So far the biggest winners I've seen brought up a lot are WR Ricky Pearsall, DE Marshall Kneeland, and C Jackson Powers-Johnson.

Oh man imagine if they pivot and hire Aaron Glenn...

I'm going to guess the "sources" are in Washington's front office. Perhaps the damage control mindset survived Dan Snyder's exit.

Nice. McDermott can be an actual head coach this year, and if he fails again we have Ben Johnson lined up for next year. This is the most hopeful I've been about the future in a while.

Huge news for next offseason. I wonder if he decided he wants to wait for an opportunity with an established QB?

I will say I definitely want the Bills targeting WRs with elite physical traits as long as we're in the Josh Allen era. His whole career he's been playing with smurfs with a low catch radius. An elite physical QB throwing to an elite physical WR just fits better. As much as I normally hate the idea of contested catch specialists, if the Bills think Allen can launch the ball downfield to Coleman in 1v1 coverage and he'll come down with it more often than not, I'm good with that. Coleman is also a bully with the ball in his hands and that is not a skill set we've ever had in the Allen era. It might be a case where his skill set is too limited for 90% of offenses, but for ours it's perfect. At least that's how I'll talk myself into liking the pick if we draft him. The funny thing about this whole discussion over which of the WRs we should draft is that it might not even matter. Any WR we take gets the benefit of immediately being in an offense with Josh Allen. Unless they're a total bust, it's almost impossible for them to fail. Kincaid was the first pass catcher we've drafted on day one or two in the Allen era and he immediately broke a couple franchise records... It's not complicated. Just make an actual effort to put great pass catching talent on the field with Josh Allen, and prosper.

Which brings us back to my point... Mahomes and the Chiefs offense are not literally unstoppable. You know this, right? Is this one of those things where you don't actually have a point, you just like trolling another team's board? There's 2 other Chiefs fans on here with the same shtick. You should start your own little club.

Couldn't agree more. What is your point? If you want to hop on the Fire McDermott train with me, there are plenty of seats available.

No offensive player "runs circles" around an opposing defense while getting shut out for an entire half. If you want to say they ran circles around the Ravens D for 2 quarters, go for it. Football is played in 4 quarters. Your point is wrong. You're trying to argue Mahomes and the Chiefs offense are simply unstoppable and there is nothing the Bills defense could have done to slow them down. You're trying to argue the defensive injuries didn't matter. This is obviously on the face of it incorrect. Gee, what happened to the Chiefs offense after those other playoff games you cited (while ignoring that Tyreek Hill was on the field but we'll let that slide)? They must have run circles around their following opponents, right?

Let's break it down line by line. This is the one thing you said that has merit. The DL was healthy and underperformed relative to expectations. Why does this matter? Hyde and Poyer have both been well below their standards this year. I doubt either will be on the roster next year. When we say the defense stunk, we're including the safety play within that. Sure, Douglas limping around the field definitely means our defense was close to full strength. Nice try. Christian Benford being replaced by Dane Jackson, who had the 2nd worst performance on the defense, isn't worth bringing up according to you. Get outta here with this crap. Oh yeah, they "took advantage" of Klein alright. I appreciate your attempt to minimize this by lumping it in with the rest. Klein had one of the worst individual defensive performances I've ever seen in a playoff game. It harkened back to a Mike Hughes performance in a game you might have watched two years ago. I recall a mediocre WR racking up Randy Moss like stats as a result. Yes one absolutely terrible no-business-being-on-the-field defensive player can single handedly ruin the game for everybody else. That was Klein in this one, with an honorable mention going to Dane Jackson. Get outta here with that crap.

"Ran circles" around the Ravens D. Chiefs had 8 consecutive drives of: Turnover on downs Punt FG Punt Punt Punt Punt Punt Ran circles. Get outta here with that crap.

This is the most uneducated collection of statements I've ever seen on this board. Suffice it to say, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Good executives are self-aware and Beane is a good executive. He wouldn't dare pull a stunt like that. I am 90% certain we will take a WR with the first pick. Beane says the last game of the season shows you your weakpoints and, well...

We have to come out of this draft with 1 WR from day one and 1 WR from day two. It might be a long time before the position is this deep in a single draft, which means good value in every round. We have to take advantage of it. This draft could and should be the foundation of the offense for the next stage of Allen's career if we play it right.