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Only one of those was really an egregious pass, though. That's the point. That's why turnover worthy plays is tracked.

I'm not talking about a one season statistical bump. I'm talking about an entire play style. Allen is always going to have more INTs than most QBs, just like he is always going to have more TDs than most QBs.

Don't worry, I gave the post the exact amount of attention it deserved.

I mean all he has do is not turn the ball over. He's one of like 3 QBs that has zero reason to push the envelope and he's done it multiple times in this game.

This is like three combined strawman arguments and addresses nothing in my post at all. It has been well established that you will not be satisfied unless Allen is literally the greatest QB in the history of the NFL. I would like that too. But I prefer to talk in reality.

He has been straight up terrible so far. I hope he gives a much better performance next week.

I can't remember the last time we had practically an entire drive gifted to us on penalties

If the voters give the MVP award to a QB this year they should just change the name of the award once and for all.

Whelp Lamar has been brutally bad to start this game

The 49ers have 4 skill players that would probably be the best skill player on our team right now. 3 for sure, Aiyuk a maybe.

Lamar air mails a pass over the head of an open WR on 3rd down

If Allen starts thinking more and taking safe throws he is no longer an elite QB. You can't take away some of his INTs without also taking away some of his TDs. This is especially true because our group of skill players is currently below average and our OL is decent but not great. The offense has a crazy low margin for error which means Allen HAS to push the envelope to score points. There is no other way. Also it should be pointed out again that Allen's turnover luck has been bad in an unprecedented way. ZERO dropped INTs. As far as I know that has never happened before. His turnover worthy play rate is LOWER than his actual turnover rate. Again, that is unprecedented bad luck. With even average turnover luck he would probably have about 5 INTs less than he has right now and we wouldn't even be having this conversation this year, in fact he would probably be the leading MVP candidate. I know it's hard to take a complicated view of things but this conversation is nowhere near as simple as "Josh just needs to stop throwing so many INTs." Not even close. For me the only thing I wish is that he would be more reserved against awful opponents like the Jets week 1 and the Chargers last week. Mahomes for the first time in his career has to play with a below average group of skill players and OL. It isn't a coincidence he is throwing more stupid looking INTs this year. He has no choice but to push the envelope. Like I've said many many times Allen and Mahomes the past 3 years or so have played at a very similar level. The difference in team results over that period is exclusively because of other factors that have nothing to do with QB play. Both offenses would likely be bottom of the league bad this year if not for the greatness of their QBs.

I'm not 100% certain he is better than Tyrod Taylor right now

The AFC/NFC dichotomy is so weird this year. I think it's a lot harder to make it into the playoffs in the AFC, but once you're in it's an easier path to the Super Bowl. And for the NFC it's the exact opposite.

Brady is easily still the GOAT. I have no problem saying it. The consistency of his play might never be matched again.

He was pretty bad for sure. Still I can be realistic and say his weapons and OL gave him zero help today. Even for the 2nd best QB in the league it's a lot to overcome. The best QB barely managed it on Saturday.

This is the 2nd game this year that Mahomes has been the primary responsibility for his team's loss. Denver was the other one.

Nice how that one Raider just stands there and doesn't even try to help make the tackle

Yeah it was clear and obvious. No catch.

I'm in awe of our bad turnover luck this year. DBs tend to drop the ball a lot. We have gotten exactly zero help in that department this year.

Ah they are going to overturn that. Only other QBs have gift interceptions dropped. That is the 2nd in this game for Mahomes.

Lmao I tuned in just in time to see that INT and then hear Romo try to blame MVS. Mahomes has been awful in this game.

I just saw the Raiders have 1 passing yard since the 1st quarter. This game will slip away from them if they don't get that figured out.

Just saw a replay of a Raiders DB dropping a gift wrapped Mahomes interception... Can Josh have just one of those this year?