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This is bad news for us IMO. Always tough for a defense to prepare for a replacement QB on short notice, and Dalton can read defenses better than Bryce Young can.

I trust Allen to maximize a new player much much more than I trust McDermott/Babich to maximize a new player. So that's an easy one for me.

Yeah I just don't know where the improvement is coming from short of a WR trade. Some fans have pointed out we had the same week 5 and 6 slump last year and then turned it around, but the trade for Amari Cooper was the catalyst for that turnaround. We scored 30+ in all but one of our remaining games after that. If we don't make some kind of comparable trade this year there's no reason to think the passing offense is suddenly going to take off. And then on defense Hoecht will help some but the DL really hasn't been the problem this year. With Hairston who knows when McDermott is comfortable enough with him to let him play. So the back 7 which has been the problem this year is stuck as is for the foreseeable future. I haven't felt this negative about the team since before the McBeane era. Really hard right now to find reasons to be optimistic. A trade for Olave or some other #1 WR is the only move that would give me real hope. Even with that I'm not sure it would be enough to overcome all of the roster and coaching staff deficiencies but it would at least give us a fighting chance.

Teams were previously 1062-0 when leading by 18 points with 6 minutes to go.

The over/under in that game was 40.5. There were 46 points scored in the 4th quarter.

Shocking that Denver is going to give this game away. A dumb RTP, two dropped interceptions, and finally a weak DPI. Dart will get credit for a game winning TD that he absolutely didn't deserve.

Man that's a weak DPI to throw at this point of the game...

That's 2 interceptions dropped by Denver because 2 DBs collided at the catch point

Jordan Love hasn't played as well as he needs to with that contract. Also I still contend that the Parsons trade was a mistake. I'm not sure any defensive player is worth two 1st rounders and over $40M AAV in the modern NFL. They still don't have a legit #1 WR so that combined with Love's middling play has capped their success.

No that's his 5th year option which the Saints already picked up. He is locked in at that cap number next year unless an extension lowers it.

Pats are here to stay, no denying the last few weeks as a flash in the pan. One positive of this development is that if the Pats relegate us to #2 in the division maybe that's enough for Pegula to make a change. It's easy to talk himself into staying the course when we coast to division wins every year, but if the floor goes lower maybe he finally loses his patience.

I hear you. I'd still rather see what it looks like though rather than throw away a full season of Allen's prime, which is what we're doing if we leave the offense as is. Even just having the threat of Olave on the field helps to open up the short field plays that Brady spams every week if nothing else. That's what Cooper did for us and he was past his prime last year. Also I saw an intent to get the ball downfield early against the Falcons but we had to abandon that plan once Palmer went out. Even against the Pats they were trying it. So I'd like to think they know there are a lot of 1v1 opportunities outside they're unable to take advantage of right now because of personnel.

Yeah I still think a 2nd would get it done. I'm just saying if it takes a 1st I wouldn't balk. If we have to overpay that's our own fault for waiting too long to address the problem... I'd still rather overpay to address it than not address it at all. I don't worry about 2027. He's under contract this year and next year. After that Josh Allen will be 32 years old and it looks like the Patriots are going to be legit championship contenders by then. The time to push the chips in is now. Olave is not a trade where you have to figure out the extension at the same time.

Metcalf went for a 2nd in the same scenario. Hopkins went for a 2nd in his prime. AJ Brown went for a 1st, Diggs went for a 1st... It isn't going to take some blockbuster trade value. Olave is closer to the 20th best WR than he is to the 1st. That still makes him easily the best weapon on our team by a country mile. But this isn't like trading for Micah Parsons. A 1st should be enough if the Saints are open to trading him.

We're past the point of qualifiers. Maye is legit. The Pats have their QB and their coaching staff. That's the recipe that takes you from bottom of the division to top of the division in a single season.

Haha fair... I'd like to think the 1st alone would get it done. WRs in his tier are usually getting traded for 2nds. If they want a young WR back in exchange I wouldn't hesitate to include Coleman too.

Rickey Scoops, who despite the goofy name is a legit insider on Twitter, reported last week that the Saints are open to trading Olave. The other day Diana Russini reported they are working on a long term extension for him so some conflicting reports there... Could be the classic case of a team trying to drive up offers by putting out a report that indicates they want to keep him. All I know is we don't have the luxury of being patient and waiting for them to blink. Giving up a 1st round pick is not the worst case scenario. Getting past the trade deadline without adding a legit WR is the worst case scenario.

His release on that 2nd TD was amazing. Rattler threw the ball late but he was so open it didn't matter. Make them an offer they can't refuse. A 1st and Coleman. Just get it done.

If Josh Dobbs and Demario Douglas are making elite plays against you, it's just not your day.

👀 Hopefully Chicago embarrasses them in the 2nd half and they move into fire sale mode.

I don't see Denver as a legit threat in the conference. Bo Nix and that offense haven't been good enough. Sure they could steal a win against KC though, just like LA did. Right now it's KC and Indy as the only legit threats IMO. The NFC has a lot more legit contenders.

I wouldn't read too much into this game against a laughably untalented opponent, but it is starting to seem like they have no real challengers in the AFC. I'm interested to see what Indy looks like against them in a few weeks. KC's defense is not elite this year and Jonathan Taylor has been playing like an MVP candidate. Lou Anarumo is their DC and he has confounded Mahomes in the past. So there are some favorable elements there that at least in theory make them a worthy challenger. Is Daniel Jones up to the task though? That's the biggest question.

The defense isn't any number of players away... They are a coach away. This idea that they just need to get the right players in the room is the fundamental error that caused this regime to make all the wrong decisions in the offseason. They could have added Myles Garrett and it wouldn't have mattered. No amount of investment we make on that side of the ball is ever going to matter under current management. Either get a new coach in the building or do whatever it takes to make the offense so good that the defense becomes irrelevant.

Yeah I do blame him... It's an unforgivable error. Missing on a draft pick, that's forgivable. Failing to make a no brainer addition is not. Right now we are wasting an entire season of our elite QB while he's in his prime. That's a fireable offense. This season we could have been watching Allen throw rockets to Metcalf downfield which would have been fun to watch if nothing else. It would have opened up everything underneath too. Nothing about the offense the last two weeks has been fun to watch. Beane rested on last year's laurels and used that as an excuse to run it back. I genuinely think he believed that last year's results meant we didn't need a #1 WR and he doesn't have a head coach that tried to convince him otherwise. If he really believed we needed one he would have closed the deal. They (and much of this board) had the completely wrong philosophy about how to build this team to a championship level.

Jakobi Meyers is inactive. This game so far has nothing to do with calls. In fact Las Vegas just got out of a 3rd and 12 because McDuffie committed illegal contact. They just have no offensive talent. It's like watching an expansion team.