Heavy Kevi

Obviously there has been plenty of peril and hot takes, defenses of the team/staff, and basically a severe dressing down of any and all things Bills recently. The narrative has come out of the basement (our TBD safe haven), right into the national media. They love it and revel in seeing the Bills fall apart as they've so routinely gotten to enjoy. But that's not really the point here. This is more of a "next steps forward" thread. I believe I've gazed into a crystal ball and seen the future (ok so not really) but some things are aligning in a way that makes this seem highly plausible to me. The long and short of this "prediction" is this: -Team stays intact this year, and mostly next year. No big time trades or signings. Probably a mid-tier LB or shifty wr5 at the deadline but nothing major. Next year getting under cap will have some casualties. -Coaching stays (mostly) intact through next year. Sean gets his excuse again, and Dorsey is the sacrificial lamb. New oc likely to be promoted from within, or someone Josh is familiar with in one way or the other. -Next year they try one more time to "run it back". The team will again show flashes and have great games, but the old players will lose another step and/or get hurt again. Not sure Tre ever returns, and Von might be ruined, still not sure on that one. They make or miss playoffs but have a hard time winning more than a playoff game or 2. -Then the end of next year comes. It's time. It will be an off-season of attrition. HC gone, along with mostly all of the rest of the coaches. Big time roster turnover. Say goodbye to poyer, Hyde, Tre, von, Stef, Dion, Morse, prob Knox, etc. The priority keeps for the bills new coaching staff will be Allen, Kincaid, Torrence, Bernard, Rousseau, Milano (assuming he comes back into form). -Beane gets a fresh new coaching staff cycle to prove his worth. Despite it's warts, Beane has built a solid roster to win now. He will get benefit of the doubt thanks to injuries and coaching issues (from :13 to zombie like team attitude) -- Why do I think this? Well, the timing is baked in to the contracts and age of the team. For McD, he gets another get out of jail free card with the injury excuse and Dorsey's crappiness. But they also aren't going to want to change up coaching with the personnel we currently have on the roster. After next year, they can move on from big restrictive contracts like Stef and Von, but can't next year due to dead cap. The secondary will probably at least partially retire. Benford the new DB1. I think Beane senses this, and will be reticent to trade future assets unless he believes he is also on the hot seat. This old house needs to get younger and it's going to take a cap correction year to do so. So, in 2025 the team has a new HC and staff. Tons of new players, especially lots of young talent. The team shows renewed energy with the new coach at the helm, and the hype of a Josh Allen resurgence is on the lips of the media, and then.... In 2026 they launch with high expectations, in the NEW stadium, and the cash rolls in. I hate that this could take 3 years, but it feels almost inevitable to me when you weigh the age of the team, the contracts that need to be played out, and the theme of underperformance under McDermott. That's my take for most likely near to intermediate term outcomes, what's yours?

Like I've been saying since last year... This team is mentally weak. To me, that's their identity now. They can't handle adversity. Like any adversity at all. And the defense has been gutted with injuries to add on to the offenses woes. They are in a doom loop right now. Self fulfilling prophecy. They are beat before they step out there.

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I feel like there's almost no chance, but if I was Beane I'd be offering a 1st and a 3rd/4th to try and get this done. This iteration of our Bills is in it's late stages. There's about to be alot of roster turnover in the next couple years. ALL IN. Push them chips forward and try to get a Lombardi this year. The other superpowers are bolstering their rosters at this position right now too (hardman, Julio). It's an arms race.

Williams looks alot like Tremaine to me. Always around the ball but seemed to be chasing. Just my layman's observation Bernard seemed calmer. Last week after Milano went down I think he was a bit shaken, but a week to prepare seemed to smooth that out for him.

Yes he looks slow, labored, and like, well... He's rehabbing. When you got guys playing at a level that Greg, AJ, and Floyd have been, it's hard to justify putting von out there on meaningful snaps. I actually think this is like a pre-achilles Tre situation, where von is likely to not be good, let alone great, until next year. Difference is we have other impact players at Vons position, but didn't at Tre's, so he got lots of leash. And I'm pretty sure tomorrow is Von's 87th birthday, so there's that. I'm not there yet, but I'm not ready to write off that direction. I think if you do that, you are also making other moves (letting poyer, Hyde, Tre go) and having a dead cap year and a youth movement. And some new coaching, be it just OC or otherwise. Basically it would be moving on from this SB "window", and starting to chip away at the painted jams on the next window. This is basically the way I thought about last year. Time to call it with this group and shake it up. And maybe gain some mental toughness, since that is this team's tragic flaw. Wimpy, defeatist mindsets.

This. When there is no attention on him, he feasts. But when they are paying attention, he's not open because he doesn't have the whole route tree; and when you really need it, he drops the ball (in every literal and figurative sense). Hands is probably the biggest problem for him though. I think of a great #2 as a guy who may be physically limited enough to keep him from being a #1, but understands the game enough to be in the right place, and to CATCH the ball when it matters. Hines ward. Cole Beasley. wes welker. Julian Edelman. Some examples that fit that mold of not physically gifted but gamers when it matters. And the prototype at WR2. Not sure how much $.02 is worth these days with inflation, but there's mine

Donkey Kong still have any juice left? Wonder what a horrible harry reunion would cost in a trade?

It is no doubt a frustrating situation, NFL not caring about product or safety to make money, but it's not new. I figure they want to move the Jags to London, so giving them advantage to look good and gain fans over there makes sense if they want to get to that end But you can't just be mad at the league. Our offense did nothing. They were tired. Boohoo. The real thing to get mad about is how mentally weak this team is. It showed last year and it's rearing it's ugly head again this year. When they face adversity they pack it in and give up. All it took this time was jet lag. Yeah, that's all it takes to rattle this team.

How do you know? He signed here. It's not impossible to think he saw Bernards emergence and realized he doesn't have a chance to start, so he retired. I certainly don't know, but there is precedent for players unretiring when a team suddenly has a void at their position. It's not like he retired years ago, it was this camp and it's week 5

McDermotts defense is amazing when it has great players running it. But the zones get softer and softer the more backups are playing. Not really an excuse, gotta go more aggressive in those situations. But the offense is the identity of the team and needs to score more.

Great to see him making impact plays regularly. He's been invisible until this year.

How so? May be time for dude to come back right about now.

Idk. Milano in a cast. Hard to imagine him making a meaningful comeback unless the cast was precautionary But I'm no doc🤷🏻‍♂️

Wow just making up rules now? He was not down making the catch, he was going to the ground. And when you are going to the ground, you have to survive the ground. But you know, they put us here as a HOME game against a team who has been there for 10 days and will probably move to Europe in a few years. So the league isn't really concerned about fairness or player safety, just profit from overseas.

I think Tua would have been pretty good last week if we had Rousseau, white, Bedford, and Milano out. Its like preseason out there with all the backups.

Yeah. Not enough WR. That was Miami's problem🤷🏻‍♂️ Isn't that, like... The strength of their team?

"Everyone in the locker room knows who the bad guy is and it's Josh Allen" -Steven A 🤣

Well the league has been wanting a new owner for the Phins. And here he is!

Just another stat that proves it's almost criminal to have no hardware at this point. But continue at this pace and it will come.

Haha Kyle is so enthusiastic. Dawson is a beast after the catch. It's not quite "I saw a tiger and the tiger saw man" from Bengals 2 years ago but he did brutalize Holland on this one.

It's Just Another Game But it's across the pond in the land of no dentists. Jags have been chilling over there waiting for us. Neutral field. I think we still get it done!

I'm no capologist but Josh has his big deal and Tua doesn't. Once they sign Tua to his long termer.... That will change the makeup of this debate. As it stands (sans Tua) the bills seem to be in a marginally better cap position, but Tua is the x factor. And he's injury prone so I'm interested to see how it plays out if Tua misses sig time like he has the last 2 years.

I hope what Romo and Nantz were talking about yesterday was true and Josh's new mantra is "boring football" If he does continue to read progressions differently (as they mentioned short-to-long as opposed to long first) and focus on comp% he will be unstoppable. It's not like Tua that needs an unbelievably talented skill player stable and all the McDaniel flashing lights, smoke and mirrors, and tricks. ALL Josh needs to do is calm down and not try to win the game on one play. The Good thing is Josh reverts to hero Josh *mostly* when he's playing a team he thinks we should be blowing out but aren't. Just like week one, when buf was up on the scoreboard he knew he could effectively end the game with a long td and forced it so hard that it did the opposite. The last 3 weeks looked like 2020 Josh and that's a very good thing.

If the PA or league care about players AT ALL they wl mandate grass. It's downright negligent at this point.