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Lol “using it properly”? If the coach wins, that’s “properly.”

A college football coach’s job is to win, period. It is not to groom NFL players.

Lol why doesn’t Colin K. have a job again? Why isn’t Eric Reid getting signed? Don’t be disengenuous.

Good thread

Because if I poke my own eyes out, I won’t be able to see

Good thing he didn’t take a knee, or else he’d be out of a job.

Lil I edited my post to reflect that

The worst scenario for the Bills is for Rosen, Mayfield, Darnold, and Jackson all going before they can pick or trade up. Allen at 12....yikes. actually, I take that back. The worst case scenario is for the Bills to trade up - to any spot - and select Allen.

If you want Rosen, go get him. Waiting for him to slide seems like (in poker terminology) fancy play syndrome.

Oh, so now the guy we want is Darnold?

LOL Browns

What are we supposed to pay him with?

Tried to take an objective non biased re-look at Josh Allen Scouts see the two ridic throws he makes a game and the twice a game he evades pressure like Roethlisberger and drool. The negative traits just shouldn't be ignored though so easily. He has what I call Johnny Manziel itis since he'll at times run out of clean pockets for no reason at all. The current fatal flaw he has is he'll make jump throws off his back foot vs pressure--when it was a sideline throw they were all intercepted in the games I watched, in the NFL those are easy pick sixes. This is the key for me I think if he doesn't fix that he busts for sure, if he fixes that he might be alright. He will Hackenburg screens and quick WR throws. Honestly if you have issues throw a ball accurately 20 feet in front of you with no defenders in the way how in the world are you a #1 pick. Regardless, he'll have his ALLENAHHHHHHHHS b/c that's just how gunslingers go. The narrative Josh Allen had bad WR's is bull****, sure once in awhile they couldn't catch a pass because Allen threw it too hard but Allen also has significant placement issues. Not to mention "they couldn't get open" is a pathetic excuse, you actually want to see that in college for QB's because they're not as open in the NFL. The most wide open WR in the neb/iowa games Allen still missed because ofc he did. He has all the traits the old school looks for but they gotta stop ignoring the flaws. He's got a bazillion more upside than Hack ever had but still the attitude that those flaws don't matter whatever lol losers on the internet you know nothing is annoying. That all said, the NFL definitely wants Josh Allen to be a hit to laugh at the internet and nerds forever.

Well I hope you're dead wrong on...everything.

Did you guys even read the article? LOL at all of you making statements before doing that. And to be fair to Allen, while the advanced stats don’t look great, no one can say for sure whether he’ll pan out or be a bust. Stats may not be for losers, but no one would argue that numbers alone make an NFL quarterback. If Allen can piece together his immense talent, he could be the next Brett Favre. If not, he’ll be the next Jake Locker. But in order to draft him no. 1 overall, the Browns would have to ignore every statistical analysis imaginable. As far as analytics go, it’d be the end of the Process in Cleveland. Yes, we all know it's a crap shoot and no one knows for sure. Duh. But all these studies are trying to do one thing: make a coin flip into something less than a coin flip...giving those who do study maybe a 60-40 chance or even better of making the right decision. And guess what? That's the !@#$ing point. But all we get here is all of the above posts calling me out if Allen is actually good, or saying "nobody knows." And if the Bills actually do pick Allen, I'm going to cheer for him and hope he's Brett Favre and not Jake Locker. But I'm not going to bet on it.

read the article

I would not mind this draft! And that site is A+. Thanks for the link.

Riley Macatee at The ringer has written an interesting article pulling various data points together to show that Josh Allen will likely be a bust. Here is the article. Allen is the embodiment of an old-fashioned, “stats are for losers” approach to evaluating prospects. While draftniks like Mike Mayock and Mel Kiper Jr. rave about Allen’s prototypical size, arm strength, and raw potential, Allen’s production in college gives no indication that he will be a franchise quarterback in the pros. As far as statistical models go, there isn’t a single one that projects Allen as even a first-round pick, much less the top overall player in the draft. And it’s not just his much-maligned completion percentage—let’s take a look under the hood. One interesting chart he uses: Comparing 2018 QB Prospects Player QBASE DYAR Projection Rosen-Olbrecht PFF "NFL Throws" Bill Connelly Success Rate IQR Final-Year QBR Passing S&P+ Baker Mayfield 1st 3rd 2nd 1st 1st 1st 1st Sam Darnold 4th 1st 1st 2nd 6th 4th 2nd Josh Rosen 3rd 2nd 4th 6th 5th 5th 5th Mason Rudolph 5th 6th 3rd 3rd 2nd 3rd 4th Lamar Jackson 2nd 5th 6th 5th 4th 2nd 3rd Luke Falk 6th 7th N/A 4th 3rd 6th 6th Josh Allen 7th 4th 5th 7th 7th 7th 7th I really don't want the Bills drafting Josh Allen. He's most likely going to be a huge bust. Let's hope the Browns actually do draft him.

I didn't say anybody would, only that he's perhaps the 2nd or 3rd best prospect out there. If we don't move up, we should nab him at 12. Jackson on the Patriots would be a nightmare for us.

So many of you have been saying "maybe we should've drafted Mahomes last year," and yet nobody wants Jackson. Jackson will be the real deal. Rose, Jackson, Mayfield, Darnold in that order. If the Bills move up just to take Josh Allen, god help us.

all that says to me id that people on the Browns board are as idiotic as people on the Bills board.

No, but them I'n not a crazy moron.

If anyone thinks Mayfield is getting past the Jets, they’re nuts

that's a stupid scenario

Pick Player Pos College 1:4 Josh Rosen QB UCLA 2:21 D.J. Moore WR Maryland 2:23 James Washington WR Oklahoma St. 3:1 Josey Jewell LB Iowa 3:32 Mason Cole C Michigan 4:21 P.J. Hall DT Sam Houston St. 5:29 Tony Brown CB Alabama 6:13 Sam Jones G Arizona St. Trades Acquired via (CLE): 1:4 Traded away: 1:12, 1:22