SouthNYfan

-"Bucks"? It's Bucs. Their QB is WINSTON not "Wilson" Oh he also had an injury to his throwing shoulder in week 6, tried to play through it, wound up missing 3 weeks, total of 13 games played. He also became the youngest player in NFL history to throw for 10,000 yards, breaking bledsoe's record. -Dolphins. Tannehill is actually questionable, as many feel the dolphins might draft a replacement since he can't stay in the field -Bears. Trubisky was a rookie, on a bad team, all even if he doesn't wind up panning out, they aren't going to draft a guy this year already -49ers have Jimmy G, who was a midseason trade, and started what? 5 of their 16 games? Where he was undefeated and lit up the competition. -Raiders and Carr? The dude is really, really good, was coming back from a broken leg, and the whole team just seemed to underperform last year.. -Texans. Watson TORE HIS ACL and missed more than half the season. Durrrr. -Giants. Eli is at the end of his career, 1-2 years left if he doesn't have a career year, it's probably only one. He had arguably one of his worst seasons last year and is coming up on the end of a contract. -Colts. Luck was out the ENTIRE YEAR WITH A SHOULDER INJURY. He didn't play a single snap even in preseason. My favorite?? -Browns!? Their QB is TYROD not kizer. Kizer isn't even in the team anymore. You literally don't even know that their QB is your own teams' former QB!? FFS man. You have literally no idea about any of the teams your listed. Should delete himself.

From the article "During this time, Lombardi’s son Matt was an offensive assistant for the Louisville Cardinals. This gave Belichick a sustained flow of information on Jackson," That's a bit of a stretch I will say that Jackson ran EhP offense. So do the Pats. Honestly overall I could at it happening

McDermott seems solid. Get your facts right on bellucheat though. Yep.

Are you going to dismiss that he took the f*cking browns to the playoffs and won a game there? 11-5 with testaverde and rypien at QB, and leroy hoard at RB. #1 defense in the league. His defensive playbook used against the Bills in Superbowl xxv was included into the HoF because it was designed to slow down the kgun. The man is better than a "might be a good defensive coach" He's also a cheating POS so I can't call him the GOAT because I don't know where he'd be without the cheating, Brady either.

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He has no access to such things. Heposts to the forum using carrier pigeon to the moderators, who post on his behalf.

Bortles 91 Bridgewater 89 Winston: 97 Mariota 93 Wentz 91 Goff 91 Lynch 88 Watson 89 Trubisky 87 Kizer 87 Mahomes 80 Fwiw.

That would actually be a good thing for him. Dalton is very good, albeit inconsistent. Rudolph wishes he could be Dalton.

10/10

Yeah he was crazy that year. Had a very good year in GB before we got him too. Played elite lights out season 1, then low end pro bowl the next 3, before he went to Jax If he's even 80% urlacher I'd take him in a heartbeat

Yep. Excuse me!? How dare you!? I wholeheartedly disagree. Romanowski should NEVER be powerslammed through a burning table. That is an honor reserved for only the greatest Bills and Bills fans. I would not disgrace that honor with Romanowski. First was definitely his best year, no doubt. He had many "good" years in his career, he only played 3 in Buffalo and made the pro bowl every season. He had about 50 tackles, 7.5 sacks, 2 forced fumbles and 1-2 ints every season of his career that he was a starter. The one season in Buffalo was an outlier, career year, like one of the top "sack seasons" in NFL history (10th most total in a season, tied with a bunch of other guys for #29 all time single season, was like #12 at the time) I think he was very solid in his career, but that one season was WHOA BUDDY!!

Just because we didn't understand your incoherent ramble doesn't mean it's over our heads. So we need a racist prick? Gotcha.

def. although brees was coming back from a possible career ending injury, and pre-injury he never played at the level he wound up reaching in NO. me too. i meant it would be a tough choice

Yeah. I wonder what happens if we trade up, draft a QB high, and AJ turns into a beast?? Do we trade the young guy? Let AJ ride it out?

At least we agree there

Generally people don't provide links to a stance on a topic unless they agree with it, or they explicitly state in their opening post that they don't. Why would you post something you didn't agree with? You only said you didn't know what the right decision was after people were like "this is dumb"

I don't disagree with you at all. My point was there are 2-3 threads for each on the top4 QBs that show why they ABSOLUTELY will/won't be a bust based on some convoluted "new" stat system and there are people who will argue that it's fact that a guy will/won't be a bust, including the op. That was what I was getting at.

It's a pretty hot-take.

I read the long, dumba$$ article that says by the end started that Josh Rosen's ceiling is Brandon Weeden, Darnold's is Colt McCoy, Rudolp's is hard Goff, and Allen is Tebow/kizer. Kizer and McCoy barely have any NFL stats to go off of, yet this guy claims to be using the first 4 years of NFL player's stats as projections, when kizer only has one season under his belt. I honestly don't know which QB will be the best, nobody does, and every single scout uses different metrics and film study to project a draftee. Articles like this one which basically claim to have figured out some magical, convoluted system of advanced metrics to project don't mean crap. Moneyball failed in baseball because it relied solely on advanced metrics.

No, but you linked it, and are acting like it's gospel. Moron.

Both national championship QBs from high power programs, who were surrounded by massive talent. Your idiotic statement about "the QB position matters little who is on the field with him" in regards to claiming that mccarron's college success had nothing to do with the fact that year in year out Alabama's roster could probably win 3-5 games in the NFL was why I brought up Tebow. He had ridiculous college stats, won a Heisman, and National champ, because he was in a loaded Miami roster. I never once said they were the same type/style of QB, but the point remains. College QBs with crazy talent around them excel. They rarely translate to high caliber NFL players.

It's because you aren't looking at the "right stats" to show his ceiling. You know, the cherry picked stats that bolster the pov that the op and article are coming from. Yeah I just want the band-aid ripped off at this point. If we bleed out, so be it.

Tim Tebow says hi. So does every single Ohio State QB of the last three decades.

I agree with you on that, I will say that I feel the Browns acquisition of Tyrod points to Darnold or Allen being their guy, with the intention of Tyrod being their QB for 1-2 seasons, depending on who they draft. I'm could see Darnold coming in midseason for whoever drafts him as well. Good points.