SouthNYfan

Yeah definitely. I think he's gonna be really good. Tomlinson was #5 but I get what you're saying. RB first round draft history: 2017 #4 fournette #8 mccaffery 2016 #4 Zeke 2015 #10 gurley #15 Melvin Gordon 2014 (None) 2013 (None) 2012 #3 Trent Richardson #31 Doug Martin #32 David Wilson 2011 #28 Mark Ingram 2010 #9 Spiller #12 Ryan Matthews #30 jahvid best 2009 #12 knowshon Moreno #27 Donald brown #31 beanie Wells 2008 #4 Darren McFadden #13 Johnathan Stewart #22 Felix Jones #23 rashard mendenhall #24 Chris Johnson 2007 #7 Adrian Peterson #12 marshawn Lynch 2006 #2 Reggie bush #21 Laurence Maroney #27 DeAngelo Williams #30 Joseph addai 2005 #2 Ronnie brown #4 Cedric Benson #5 Cadillac Williams 2004 #24 Stephen jackson #26 Chris Perry #30 Kevin Jones Could go on but yeah. That's all the first round RBS taken since 2004 Not even making any inference from it, just sharing.

Yeah, at least next year which would jive with darnold either way. Taking Darnold means Eli is done after this year. Taking Allen means they are okay with Eli for 2 years potentially. I think trading jpp means they are gunning for chubb though, which is why I'm not sure they would trade back with us, since he won't be there at #12. We would have to pry #4 from Cleveland, then trade #4 to the Giants (I don't think this is feasible, but that's what would prob have to be)

No. This isn't an emotional response. This is an objective response based on actual on the field footage and objective measurements. Rosen and Mayfield are better prospects than Rudolph, Falk, Jackson, Lauletta, Ferguson. That's a fact. I'm not going to go through the hundreds of links with actual game footage and such again. You speaking about the "models they want representing the Bills" which implies that they will pass on Rosen and Mayfield for Rudolph is an "emotional response" Your words of "Football wise you don't take Rudolph or Falk before Mayfield or Rosen you just don't, but when you start talking about personalities and fits that's where things change in terms of the culture they are building." Is exactly the definition of "emotional response"

There is no f*cking way they pass on Mayfield or Rosen for Rudolph/Jackson/any of the other lower tier guys. I'm not saying they might say that the cost to move up and draft Rosen/Baker is higher than they want, so they will settle for the other guys, but no way they actually pass Rosen/Mayfield if they are available when they are selecting. You're right 100%

I think the biggest issue with taking Rudolph is that if the bills decide to not trade up, that means Allen, Mayfield, darnold, and Rosen will all be gone by #12. I know there are a select few who are pounding the drum that this won't be the case, such as the OP of this thread, but I'm not sure what world than happens in. So if it's the case that they're settled on Rudolph, his value spot should be #22 at the highest, but that means hoping another team doesn't reach for him at #13-21. That's a big risk, especially if all the other QBs are gone, which means you're stuck taking a 2nd round project at #12 to secure him, which sounds an awful lot like the EJ Manuel fiasco.

Don't forget darnold (assuming browns take Allen) I could see them taking him, sitting a year behind Eli, then having him take over when Eli rides off into the sunset. That's also assuming shurmer doesn't look Webb, which word is he does, so who knows.

No they haven't. You have 12-15 pages in multiple Rosen threads that YOU started, and every thread has like 1-2 people who agree with you and dozens who don't. So no, that's not the "entire board". Your idiotcy astounds me.

You forgot "threads bashing Josh Rosen's personality"

Yep. Yep. Beane (and maybe McDermott is involved too) have made it clear. Keep your grievances in house. If you feel they are bad enough to air in public, then you can publicly stay home and not play at all. Rot on the vine.

Go through his posts. It's just him under a new name that he's trying to pretend isn't him.

They are but one in the same. He is offended because it is him.

Which name should we call you? Dunkirk don? Chadwick Chad? You're like a chameleon

morena baccarin. Firefly came out when I was 20. I'm pretty sure if I was 15 when it came out I would have chafed a lot ? Too bad firefly was on regular tv, she played a "companion" (aka high class space hooker) so we would have seen a lot of boobs if it was HBO/showtime ?. She was awesome in Deadpool.

Let's add Dez and see what happens. Rosen is all good, I don't think he's a headcase, although I could see him making some snide remarks about it. Mayfield I don't think is a headcase either, but I could see him pouring fuel on the crazy fire.

Crazy as well.

No. We know Richie is nuts. We also know Sammy is nuts. They are mutually exclusive to each other.

I wouldn't be surprised if one of: White Lauletta Rudolph Winds up with them

He sprained his ankle like week 6-7 (chiefs, I forget which week) and never actually took any time off

Dunkirk Drew?

Very much how I feel. I think he might get mad sitting behind McCown/bridge at first and expects to start day 1.

Agreed. I think it's a good thing he's that way, I just think there's potential for it to hurt him a lot. Say the Jets pass on him, so he puts them on his "list"... What happens when he decides to play "hero ball" against them? Sometimes that chip turns bad. I honestly think that's a big reason teams don't want him. They want him to care more about football and less about grudges. (Fwiw Rodgers had a list when he was passed over. It worked for him.) I wouldn't be upset with either guy.

You asserted that it was illegal. The CBA makes it legal because it's agreed upon. Challenging it in court most likely wouldn't do anything since it's bound by contract.

Damn right.

Yeah, but the actual term "yards from scrimmage" and "all purpose yards" differ, regardless of position. Ez mistake. I actually have made it myself when looking these things up

Ahhh yes. All purpose vs from scrimmage All purpose includes kick/punt returns, int returns/fumble rec too I think