SouthNYfan

Here is your education: 2017 DE Dolphins Jason Taylor 2017 RB Chargers LaDainian Tomlinson Owens was better than both. Educated.

I didn't look yet. He's better in regards to his peers at his position ranking than all of them though.

Looks great in shorts.

2016 The Class of 2016 consists of owner Edward DeBartolo, Jr., coach Tony Dungy, quarterback Brett Favre, linebacker/defensive end Kevin Greene, wide receiver Marvin Harrison, tackle Orlando Pace, quarterback Ken Stabler, and guard Dick Stanfel. 2017 The Class of 2017 consists of kicker Morten Andersen; running back Terrell Davis; safety Kenny Easley; owner, president and general manager Jerry Jones; defensive end Jason Taylor; running back LaDainian Tomlinson; and quarterback Kurt Warner. You need to look at the process yourself as well. In his first year of 2016 he was absolutely better than the other wr who got in, Marvin Harrison, and was more deserving than all the bold names I highlighted in both years, and arguments could be made for others I didn't as well. You cannot honestly tell me you think Marvin should have been in ahead of him. He's top#3-5 all time wr, so yes, I do put his on field performance with those names you listed.

Athletes (and males in general) typically reach their performance/athletic peak between 27-30. Some guys hit it sooner (24-25) some later (29-31) I think if Brady did juice then is most likely to be late 30s (36-38+) to stave off aging vs when the jump when he actually peaked in his late 20s. I attributed his rise to a combination of good coaching, peaking physically, good receiving talent (let's remember they got moss), a shift in offensive mindset to passing, change in league passing rules, and bellicheating. It was a perfect storm.

Yeah it definitely did change it. I swear my new phone actually auto changes words after I hit send. Happens in texts all the time between my wife and I, she has the same phone, we are both like "I definitely checked before I sent that and that's not what it said!!" Anyway... Yes I'm thinking that if Davis and Murphy play well then it'll be a top5 defense

I was going with David or Murphy also Your avatar makes me read every post of yours in a yelling voice in my head.

I don't disagree that it's futile, but, Trump's Alabama rant was dangerously close to a violation of title18 USC §227. It was not because he did not actually threaten or entice the owners to not employ Kaepernick or any other kneeling players. If, in fact, he did so behind closed doors, which I believe Jerry Jones stated something to that affect, then there may be traction to the argument that he violated said law. The problem is it's he said-she said, and unless they have evidence he did so, then it'll be a tough sell to the judge.

It's literally in the opening post. Why even post in a thread without reading the actual opening content? Also I love how he does #neverquit right after he quit on the team. He can get lost.

It's been (sadly) a staple for a long time that it's better to be the first to break news, regardless of fact vs fiction. The instant information era has only magnified the problem.

It's not to everybody, which is also why it's a contentious issue, yet you continue to call it disrespectful in your discussions as if it is a fact and all view it that way.

Not everybody feels it's disrespectful. How do you not understand this simple fact of the discussion?

No, not "argue to argue". Kaep initially adjusting his position from sitting to kneeling from the advice of a veteran on his team shows he was not trying to be disrespectful. It's fully relevant to the discussion at hand. You're ignoring that part of it. Right, it is that "particular vet's opinion" which is exactly the point that many are making. "It's disrespectful to the vets" No, it isn't to many vets. Some feel it is, some feel it isn't, which was my initial point. If he's a vet, and it is not disrespectful to him, then yes, it is gospel to him. That's the whole point of all of this. Some feel it is, some feel it isn't. It's pretty close to split down the middle. I don't disagree with you, I was merely trying to point out that just because somebody stands for the flag doesn't mean they actually respect it, same as just because somebody kneels for the flag doesn't mean they disrespect it.

Kaep initially sat during the anthem. A player on his team, a veteran army ranger, spoke with him and said he felt sitting was disrespectful, and asked him instead to kneel, as that would get his point across but still be respectful, so that is what he did. He adjusted it and was open to this adjustment. You missed that "actual fact".

Except you're wrong on so many levels. That is YOUR feeling that it is disrespectful. There are MANY military personnel, both current and vets as well, who do NOT feel it is disrespectful. It actually IS disrespectful to the democratic tradition, and freedom of this country as a whole, to tell people that they MUST stand for the anthem/flag, as that goes against what freedom is, by you know, forcing somebody to do something. I'm not sure what it has to do with justice, since the entire protest they were having is about injustice levied upon minorities, particularly the black community, by the US justice system. Future generations should be set an example of freedom of choice, wherein they can CHOOSE to stand for said anthem/flag, based on their own decisions, not being indoctrinated to what their parents moral code, which is how we wound up with systemic multi-generational racial inequality to begin with, by parents and grandparents teaching their younger offspring the same archaic ideals they were raised on, such as racism and sexism. I'm going to say this again, but I'm not quite sure how it is so difficult to understand that the feeling of disrespect towards kneeling during the anthem is just that, a feeling, a personal feeling, that is not disrespectful to everybody.

Somebody who stands for the flag, yet has a core belief that is against the entire principle that flag represents, such as being a white supremacist, cannot truly be respecting the flag. I think that was his point.

It is not disrespectful to everybody. "disrespecting the fan base" is a broad statement, and does not apply to everybody who is a fan. I fail to see why this is such a hard concept to grasp. There are people who are disrespected by it, and there are people who are not. It's really not a hard thing to understand. Another point is that the owners couldn't really "nip in the bud" anything, since the CBA and league rules basically can only be changed in the offseason. You cannot fine somebody for something that isn't laid out in the league rules. There was no pre-existing clause that required standing during the anthem, nor was there anything about kneeling in protest while on the field, etc. Their hands were tied, even if they wanted to do something. They did what they had to do, went through proper league procedure in the offseason to address this as they saw fit, and came to a compromise wherein if you are on the field you stand, but you are not required to be on the field. I think it was about the best they could do to handle a situation that a hardline in either direction would have alienated a huge chunk of the fans. In a no-win situation they took the bystander approach, which was about all they could do.

"Packers players have put on a softball game annually at the home of the Wisconsin Timber Rattlers, a minor league affiliate of the Milwaukee Brewers. The game has been hosted by Brett Favre, Donald Driver and Jordy Nelson over the years. Matthews and Davante Adams took over as co-hosts this year after Nelson was cut." Packers front office getting some bad karma for cutting Jordy!

I'm not so sure you have to be a top running team though, but you definitely have to be somewhat balanced. Stopping the run is very important, especially when you can do it with just your front 4-5 guys and leave the rest to defend the pass. Being consistent against the run can help to negate 2nd and short for the opposing team. Look at the advanced metrics of pittsburgh's defense after shazier went down. They gave up run plays of 7+ yards on something like 68% of rushes (i'm trying to remember, too lazy to look it up) That led to a lot of extended drives against them. Anyway, I think a balanced offense is very important. Passing and Pass Defense (including pass rush) are the most important things, but, you cannot just ignore running/run defense. I truly do think that the Giants taking Barkley was a mistake @ #2 though. He's now a top 3 paid back in the NFL day 1, and they could have gotten a guy 85%+ as good as him in the second round, while stockpiling a few picks. In the end though, them passing on Chubb led to Denver taking him, which led to us giving up less to move up and get Allen, which led to us having that second 1st rounder to get Edmunds, so really, even if Gettleman made a mistake, it benefited us significantly, so I'm okay with it =D

Has LeBron been juiced since he was 12? His "roid forehead" has looked the same since he was a teenager. He's also seen a slow, natural decline in his athleticism, has played with multiple Olympics and FIBA teams (who are crazy strict with their testing), does not have any crazy veins/muscle hypertrophy typically seen with steroids, and has not had the slew of injuries that long time 'roid users start seeing pile up in their 30s due to the breakdown of tendons and joint integrity. He's been a freak of nature since he was a kid, and is well known to have been insanely strict with diet and exercise since he was a kid as well, and has never been the typical drugs/alcohol/party time athlete. I'd be shocked if he was on steroids. Bonds was obvious. Manning was most likely used to try and recover after his neck injury, vs career long usage.

I was hopeful too He blew it big time

Tell that to the Orlando magic GMs lately ??

Situational awareness? Tyrod dumping it off for 3 yards on 3rd and long when behind late in games

I used to go to food lion in SC

Oh I wasn't saying Logan had an ACL, one of the other guys was referring to his own ACL tear and the MD was like "we will just see what's in there when we get in the knee" and I was just explaining that many times there is an ACL tear that doesn't show up cleanly on the MRI so they go in exploratory and work on the fly while in there