SouthNYfan

That's a prediction of 12-4 That means he thinks they will win that 12-4 is not achievable without a miracle

Assuming 12 wins is a crazy and outlandish prediction no matter which way you slice it. (Sorry I posted before answering the second half) Going to rate the games as: Win Loss 50/50 @nyj - 50/50 @nyg - win Bengals - win Pats - loss @ten - 50/50 BYE WK 6 Mia - win Philly - loss Redskins - 50/50 @browns - loss @mia - loss Broncos - 50/50 @cowboys - loss Ravens - win @Steelers - loss @pats - loss NYJ - win That's my rationale with 6 being the floor and 10 being the ceiling.

And that mahomes type leap would make 12 a possibility I would love to eat my words and win 12+ Betting on it though I would not

I think 6-10 to 10-6 is a more reasonable range 12 is an absolutely crazy prediction Can you be hopeful for that? Sure. I also can say that I think the Giants will go 15-1 because sure, why not? There are reasonable predictions and there are outlandish ones A prediction of 12 wins being most likely for Buffalo is outlandish. Could it happen? Yep. Will it happen? Most likely no. Winning 10 will be a good season and I'd be thrilled with that

Nobody called your stupid or said you know nothing about football, but calling this a 12 win, unless you assume Allen makes that leap, speaks for itself in regards to blind homerism. I didn't know Josh Allen would definitely go 3-0

I'm not rooting for a bad season by the way But I'm also trying to be realistic in my expectations Pounding chest goes both ways, both for and against the team. Screaming at people who think 12 win predictions is crazy is just as bad. People think that being realistic in expectations means you are against the team.

Saying this is a 12 win team (unless you assume Allen makes a year 2 leap like wentz/Goff) is absolutely crazy. Last I checked we had a bunch of people predicting us having 10+ last season also on this board. What did we finish with? 6. Did you forget that?? That's a lot closer to 4 than it is to 10. We made some nice off-season moves, and Allen might improve a lot, which I would love.

A lot of 10+ win predictions on a fan manage board? Every freaking team board has that. I'm not saying it's right or wrong but it is what it is. Mayfield has proven more than Allen and darnold at this point, whether you like to admit that or not. You have us going 5-1 vs the AFC East. That's a pretty ridiculous that you think we will sweep the Jets and Miami and split with the pats. Who else do you have us beating?? I think our floor is 6 wins and ceiling is about 9 or 10. Winning 12 games is very tough. You can't assume that those are automatic wins.

Agreed. 6-0 means we won @jets @titans and home Patriots That's just absurd homerism. I'm all for optimism but pulling 12 wins from that schedule means we need to have legion of boom 2.0 and Allen to be possessed by the ghost of early 90s Jim Kelly

Strength of schedule doesn't take into account off-season personnel changes so I don't always listen to that Eagles at 50/50 though? I definitely wouldn't say that. I would assume a loss. Fitz scares me because we could go 2-0 or 0-2. Cowboys I don't think is a 50/50 but we can agree to disagree there. Skins are a 50/50 to me with an improved defense, and Keenum is a coin flip... He could be Minnesota Keenum or Denver Keenum Broncos are a disaster so I'm good with you there ? Browns I'm torn on, if they click they are crazy good, but they could explode quickly Jets are solid, but darnold is a huge unknown, but so is Allen I'm not sure where 12-4 comes from man I love the optimism but realistically we are looking at 6-7 "should" wins, probably 6 "should lose" and 4 coinflips

Kollman is a smart guy Does really good breakdowns He's also the guy who says dk looks like Megatron 2.0, although that's heracy here.

Except there is by many people. Yes he is, by very many. You are delusional if you don't think he's the #1 rated wr by many, since a simple Google search will tell you this. @K-9 and I don't agree with our own views on Metcalf, but even he is willing to concede that many feel he is.

Yeah I think he does something that is all trades, at every sport

He was not great at the other routes other than what was on that tree. I'm not saying he couldn't run them at all, but he didn't need to because he did the other things so well. That's what DK is. Maximize his elite skills and ignore what he can't do because you don't need those things. I agree with wanting to see more route breakdowns

Watch Brett kollmans video That's his entire career routes A curl and slant cab be short and intermediate.

Where in that does it say he can run an entire route tree? This is Megatron's career route tree and %s run. Feel free to watch Brett kollmans video on how they compare.

I don't like sweat for some reason, and I can't even tell you why lol It's irrational but it's true.

Just no. This. I think it's still debatable at #9 but I don't disagree that people would rather him at 17-22 or so either. That's very valid. I'll not even going crazy advocating for dk @$9 I'm good with Oliver, hock, or him at 9. I also get why people might want him a bit later. I don't get the people who think he's trash, so I'm sorry if I lumped you in with them.

And that's a totally fair thing to say. Some people want the high ceiling some want the higher floor. I think you and I agree on dk as a talent, just disagree with what we want at #9

What people, where? A guy who is a top prospect talent doesn't have to be can't miss. Josh Allen and Edmunds we're highly touted talents. Neither one was regarded as can't miss

Yes. We have people calling him garbage though and acting like he's not a possible talent.

I don't disagree that we may be lacking the coaching, but daboll seems to be okay to me, and I think he'd use him right. I also think that people forget Calvin Johnson had a limited route tree as well. Doing a couple of things amazingly can be just as effective, and usually more effective, as doing everything above average. DK def needs the right coach and scheme to succeed, and a guy who is limited in his range but elite in those areas has a bigger bust potential since he also needs a proper coach to see and maximize those abilities. Anyway, he's elite in some areas and grossly lacking in others. He's ranked highly for a reason by almost everybody, but he is also listed as having a big risk by those same people. I get not wanting the risk, I totally get that, but there's no way people can say he doesn't have the upside to be a high pick, by some team.

He was a highly touted wr, many had him tops, before his combine. The combine if anything hurt not helped him. A lot of the big guys never did the agility drills for that exact reason.

Terrible take. Just because there are other "more special" players like bosa doesn't mean that a guy like dk isn't special. Completely absurd.

Sigh. He's so terrible yet scouts seem to love him. Crazy. Gonna watch when I get a chance! Thanks dude! Exactly. Kb looked like the stay puft marshmallow man from day 1