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    2024 WR Draft Class

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    17 minutes ago, 947 said:

    I really don't see us trading up this year. We have a bunch of late picks, but those aren't getting you up even 1 slot in the 1st. We already traded our 3rd this year for Douglas, we only have the compensatory 3rd coming.

     

    This board would implode if Beane traded another 3rd rounder to move up a few spots. There will be a very good WR available at #28, and we need our rounds 1-3 picks to contribute as rookies.


    Only so many rookies going to make this team, Beane has been known to trade up, and, even though the cost of a 3rd (if that is the cost) would be a super tough pill to swallow, I think Kincaid’s success bought Beane a little leeway on moving up in the first for a pass catcher. 
     

    Not saying I want to trade away a third round pick, but were we to come out of the draft with a top WR prospect from round one and potential starting safety from round two, then I think most would be happy. 

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    2024 WR Draft Class

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    52 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

    That is Kincaid.  They need someone who can line up outside and beat press.  Whether its with size speed or both.  50/50 jump ball catchers have high bust rates.  50/50 catch rates do not correlate well to the NFL.  Separation is most important.  Size in a vacuum is best but need the prerequisites first.   


    This. Brown and Beasley were both top 5-10 NFL WR separators when we brought them in and look what it did for JA17.

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    Joe Brady Officially Promoted as Bills OC!

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    2 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

    Steve Spagnola is top of class DC. Lets be fair. One of my favorites


    He is, which is why my post you quoted says that people who are saying he owned Brady in the second half are not far off. Just being balanced in pointing out that Brady’s play call had options open for either a TD or 1st down on maybe the most important play of the game.

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    Joe Brady Officially Promoted as Bills OC!

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    Three points:

     

    1. Echo those who wish there was more thorough of a search.
     

    2. If Brady came in as a lateral hire with the same résumé but from another team, then fans would be happy to hire a bright young offensive mind.

     

    3. People saying Spags owned him in the second half are not that far off, but let’s not forget the 4 major drops and even then Brady’s play call had Shakir open in the end zone and Diggs open for a 1st down on arguably the most important play of the game, but the players did not execute.

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    Bills Offensive Coordinator Interviews have started according to Jeremy Fowler

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    10 hours ago, Monty98 said:

    Just want to address this, yes screens are great CAN WE RUN A SLIP SCREEN GO TO A BACK THOUGH?! I get bubbles to get Shakir or Diggs in space but like how many times would a RB slip screen or a TE screen been effective against a blitz?


    I feel like I recall a few to TEs but yeah especially with Cook. I think what they do with him instead is just that delayed fake block the  middle curl route thing, but it is not a screen.

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    Is the #2 WR already on this team?

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    I share the love for Shakir and also echo the sentiment from others that we still need to add (read: draft) a guy who is now a WR2 at least with the expectation that he can develop into a WR1.

     

    Also, although this contradicts what I said above, I kind of want to ditch “WR1”, “WR2”, etc., terminology. We just need reliable, consistent weapons whose skills complement each other. 

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    Bills Offensive Coordinator Interviews have started according to Jeremy Fowler

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    3 hours ago, Back2Buff said:

     

    There was no turn around on the offense with him as coach.  The offense struggled just as much, if not more.  There were games where they had turnover luck that greatly benefited them.

     

    Really the only difference was Allen running more, which is that something you really want for 17 games in a season?

     

    Go back and read about all the issues Brady had in Carolina, he sounds awfully familiar.

     

    There's nothing complex about Brady's scheme. It's very basic, which is why he struggled to have positive results. In this league, you can't be predictable. You have to throw in a bunch of motions, double moves, RPO's, rub routes, and present the defense with some eye candy pre-snap. From what I can tell, 90% of the motions are just to expose if the defense is in man or zone coverage. There are very few motions into routes, blocks, or once again, eye candy.

     

    That quote about, is exactly what we seen with the Bills.  The Bills added more motion, but it was literally just what was described above.  Look at the motion that Miami runs, vs the motion that Brady ran.

     

    Read some of these responses from Carolina fans.  This is the same things that we seen in his short time here.  It's really concerning.

     

    Fan POV

     

    Joe Brady is/was the guy who ran the same 5 plays on Madden against the A.I. and impressed his friends.

    Then he went online and everyone else knew how to stop those plays.

     

    How many times are we going to see the WR screen?

     

    This is so true. He was also terrible at making adjustments, our 3rd quarter scoring being a prime example. Overall, I think he was decent at play & scheme design, but could never put it into action for longer than a few drives

     

    The second halfs were terrible under Brady.  1st KC game, 14 in 1st/6 in 2nd.  LA game, 14 in 1st/10 in 2nd.  7 points in 2nd half vs NE.  10 points in 2nd half vs Pitt.  7 points in 2nd half vs KC.

     

     

    His scheme was pretty chaotic and bad overall. There were multiple plays where receivers end up in the same spot once the route develops. Even his short yardage play is terrible.

    I honestly can't say what I think his strength was overall because nothing about him was amazing. As I mentioned in another post, his play designs rely on having physically dominant talent and once you get to the NFL--everyone is kind of on a level playing field.

     

    Didn't we have WR running into each other vs KC.  Being physically dominant sounds familiar with the Dallas game.

     

    Often looked like the opponents knew what play was coming. Seemed like play calling tended not to be balanced it would be all screens or no screens, All runs or no runs etc. There were things that felt like strengths from a fans perspective that we almost didn’t use at all at times like short routes to CMC and runs with Cam. No offensive player has really shown improvement while the defensive players seem to work on their weaknesses. Maybe it’s our lack of understanding of the complexity but from my perspective it’s hard to find something that it appears he excelled at. The main defense is just that our offensive players are not good.

     

    This hits home big time.


    First let me say I think a thorough OC search needs to be conducted and Brady is by no means a lock.

     

    However, you did not address the 3-4 major drops in the KC playoff game. Cook, Sherfield (x2), and Diggs. If 1-2 of those are caught, then we very possibly win and I think the narrative today would be more “hope we don’t lose Brady!”

     

    You also did not address that we went 7-2 with Brady and easily could have won both our losses.

     

    The major uptick for me was how much better the running attack became with Brady. Maybe I am biased because I attended the Cowboys game, but seeing us pound a playoff team (paper tiger or not) into submission by just running it down their throats was a welcome new dimension under Brady this season.
     

    I think the OL, Cook, and Shakir really took a step forward, and Allen looked more himself, after Brady took the reins. 
     

    One more point: Haven’t many of us been pounding the table for more screens for what seems like since Gailey left? I know I have been. Not going to complain too much about plays that get the ball in Diggs hands.

     

    Edit: I think your best point is about our low scoring second halves. That is concerning as I want an OC who adapts scheme to opponent during prep and in-game.

    Bills Offensive Coordinator Interviews have started according to Jeremy Fowler

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    6 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:


    Yeah it’s pretty much status quo here. This is an organization and coach that’s pretty happy with just Divisional Round appearances. 


    Our new 7-9 😂…🫠…😐

    4 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

    I also don’t think it’s a stretch to say, barring any additions to the team trophy case, 2024 is McD’s final season.

     

    Anyone who wants to be a HC will want to be the OC here, and that’s honestly the type I hope we look for. 


    If we make the AFCCG, then I would bet he stays. 

    Josh made the right call to go for the TD

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    20 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

    Diggs was open earlier though. If Josh had gone to him he’d have gotten the ball off cleanly. I will very rarely complain about a player or coach being aggressive, but Diggs was the right throw for that reason. I like that Allen wants to go for the big throw, but that wasn't the time. 

     

    The bleeding the clock argument is valid as it is a legitimate strategy in situations like this. Even if we would’ve had to settle for a FG, it would have been much shorter and there would have been a lot less time on the clock. Or we could’ve won outright with a TD. 


    The bolded, but also your entire post, is the strongest I’ve seen the argument presented. Kudos.


    Not saying I think JA17 necessarily made the wrong call because I can’t really fault our QB for making a throw he thinks will put us up 4 near the end of a playoff game, but I do think if both options are there then what you described is the sounder strategy.

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    Can We End This Nonsense About Homefield Advantage Now?

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    Going to keep beating this drum: Part of why our home field advantage is not as advantageous as it should be is Bills fans do not make noise until our opponent breaks the huddle. I am screaming my head off the entire time they are in the huddle through the snap (y’know, when the opponent is actually communicating), and literally have to turn around and tell people to get loud throughout the entire game. Our stadium gets loud, but does it too late. Sure, we fans might cause 1-2 false starts per home game, but I think starting to make noise so late leaves on the table at least another 1-2 delay of games or needless timeouts taken by our opponent. 

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