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1 hour ago, P51 said:
5'11'' 165
Do you think he can fill the void of being a #2 for the Bills?
Does not seem to be a good outlook and track record for guys being drafted that light from what I have read and the information I have looked at.
I do think he can be a WR2, but I am not as hung up on WR2 vs. WR3 and X vs Y vs Z for the position as others. I think he can come in and be as productive as Zay Flowers (5’9”, 182 lbs, 4.42 at Combine).
I see him as just needing to put on 5-10 pounds over his first couple seasons.
Marquise Brown (5’9”, 166 lbs, 4.27 at Pro Day), DeSean Jackson (6’0”, 178 lbs, 4.27 at Combine), and Devonta Smith (6’0”, 175 lbs, 4.54) are also each somewhat comparable.Plus the college production is there.
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44 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
Disaster averted
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1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:
I dont get the Worthy love. Why cuz he ran in no pads in a straight line really fast? There are big WR's running blazing sub 4.4 fortys this year, its insane. Yet people are enamored with a stick figure who weighs as much as my 10 month old son in Worthy? For me, he is the classic overdrafted guy because he wowed in the 40. Cannot fathom how a guy who is 6'1" but only weighs 165 pounds after a huge meal is supposed to hold up to WR1 type volume in the NFL.
He is nothing compared to Tyreek Hill despite seeing so many people comparing them. They are both fast, thats it. Hill is tank for his size and is maybe the best deep ball tracker of his generation and a rare case of someone with the ups and strength to play a foot taller than he is. Meanwhile, the wind in Buffalo might blow him off his route lol.
He was in my top 5 WR pre-Combine, so what he ran only really confirmed what I thought I was seeing. His play looked good and I would have been interested in the first round even if he ran a 4.4.(165 “after a huge meal” based on…?)
When I watch Worthy, I see Hill-like speed, although a more apt pro comparison might be Flowers from last year but to me a higher ceiling. I also see a guy who is good with contact, plays bigger than his size, tracks deep balls well, and has been productive since starting college.
(If your ten month old son weighs 165 lbs, then please contact Beane immediately to let him know so he has his eye on him for an early 2040s draft!)
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57 minutes ago, NewEra said:
That’s the biggest problem I have with him tbh
Fair enough given his size. But I see him bouncing off guys, staying on his feet, and continuing to gain yards, not being treated like he is Derrick Henry’s Josh Norman. -
6 minutes ago, NewEra said:
Solid comp. I thought flowers was slightly better but I’m pulling hairs there. While Worthy isn’t ideal for me as I’m just not a fan of 165lb ball carriers, he’s electric and I’d look forward to him playing with 17.
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3 hours ago, NewEra said:
There may never be another Tyreek
48 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:At approximately the same height Tyreek has 25 lbs on this guy.
To you both, I’ll concede the Tyreek comparison may be too much (although with his speed and ability to stop we’ll see), but I think he is at about Flowers level coming in last year. Maybe a little better.-
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52 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:
You think teams are lining up for a 5'11" 165lb WR?
Possibly, I'm not keen on smallish WRs as a WR2 prospect. They frequently get hurt, just like this guy running a 40🤣
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Does this rule out a return under the compensatory salary threshold?
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7 minutes ago, BBFL said:
I still put Coleman as the fringe guy for a first round. Playing in pads and gear isn’t as easy as spandex shorts and T.
Falling in love with the metric testing is great but the tape can be a truer measure imo.
If the 6 or even 7 tops guys are gone with Coleman on the board @ 28, the smart play is like you said and drop a few spots and hope for any of those 4 guys. I’d rather take Coleman over Franklin based on performance and the QB play they had.
I also think the comparison of Coleman and Franklin at the Combine makes for interesting discussion. I tend to prefer Coleman’s performance crushing the gauntlet to Franklin who struggled there but had a good 40. But then again my top WR trait is separation and it seems most of Coleman’s big plays are contested catches.-
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Worthy was my guy before. Not sure he’ll be there now. Hoping for one of him, Thomas, or Mitchell.
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If Worthy makes it past the Jags at 17 then I’m starting to call teams. Would pull the trigger to trade up to 23 with the Texans to hop the Cowboys for him.
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5 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:
He's growing on me. Returns punts too. A bit worried he wasn't the #1 at texas, but, Cooke wasn't the #1 at UGA either I guess. How did Texas ever lose with him and Mitchell at WR?
One thing I like that cover1 pointed out is he was productive since his freshman year. He mentions in his Combine interview taking a bubble screen 70 yards to the house against Oklahoma first play of the game his first year. -
First team Worthy mentioned at his Combine interview was the Bills.
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24 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:
I think we should expect a small move up. They've done it the last couple of years now. And if going WR you have to think after 4 go and the draft gets into the 20s the FO will get nervous - and rightfully so. And as you mention the possibility of KC moving up (or Carolina) needs to be considered.
Bills hop the Cowboys Part III-
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I think I’m in the minority but I’d be excited about Worthy at 28.
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1 hour ago, MJS said:
It's the offseason. Kick up your feet and relax.
Rex that you?-
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Guess this means we’re not Worthy
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Hoping Sweat is this year’s Torrence!
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6 minutes ago, DCOrange said:
I feel like he may have misspoke? He literally talks about how there's a ton of depth at WR beyond the first round and then says it's a bad draft if you don't take one in the first?
“First, here’s what I think. Second, here’s my hot take.” -
49 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
They didn't give up much. They gave up a 3rd (turned out to be pick 91) for Douglas and a 5 (ended up as pick 159). That's not nothing, sure...but in the grand scheme of things that's not a whole lot.
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You don’t give up that draft capital for a rental.
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Think we could afford RBs Elliott & Johnson, WRs N. Brown and Reynolds, DT D. Jones, DE Epenesa, and S Chin?
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1 hour ago, Logic said:
Five guys that I would be looking at:
P Matt Araiza. Big leg, legally free and clear, handsome.
WR Gabe Davis. Big-bodied, downfield threat. Just needs a real opportunity to be a WR2 for someone.
LB Tremaine Edmunds. What he does for you in the pass game simply cannot be quantified by statistics. Still just 25 years old. Probably trending up.
DE Carlos "Boogie" Basham. Positional versatility. Very cool name. Non-stop motor.
CB Levi Wallace. You can never have enough late round corners with mediocre athleticism and above average zone awareness who never intercept the football.
Get 'er done, Big Baller Beane.
With the cap increase, let’s see if we can go 5/5!-
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I think we are getting too caught up in slot vs wide, WR2 vs WR3, etc.
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2024 WR Draft Class
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Coleman would be up there. Not sure who my second is though.