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Comparing that to Jonathan Williams' 3.5 YPC last year, plus his fumble problems, I continue to think it is possible. Jackson's 3.8 YPC in 2015 (edit: originally said last year by mistake) is the same as his 3.8 YPC in 2012 when he rushed for 437 yards. And I have to disagree with the notion that NFL teams rarely make poor decisions.

Boldin had 8 touchdowns last year, so I don't think that's correct. Jackson played in 2015, albeit not much.

He really was. But yeah, for all the back and forth, I think we're actually saying the same thing: Jackson likely will not play again, but it could happen given the correct circumstances. Is there a report that he hasn't had any teams contact him? Or is that just from him saying he'll wait for them to contact him?

"Played" is an abuse of that word. He fell down a few times. And again, that argument cuts both ways because Spotrac lists Bush as a current NFL free agent. And it is likely Jackson was recuperating last year. Would like to say, again, that I think it is unlikely Jackson plays. I just don't pretend to know the future down to a certainty.

Telling, yes, which is why I've said multiple times that it is likely he is done. Again, I don't presume to know which HBs will get calls first because I don't work for an NFL organization. And honestly I would shoot for DeAngelo Williams before Fred Jackson, but Williams is unlikely to be interested because he wants to go to a Super Bowl contender. But that argument also cuts both ways because the logic basically means that no current free agent HB, or any free agent for that matter, is worth anything because... they are free agents, so NFL teams must think they are unfit to play. Similar to Boyst's post, above. EDIT: Plus, that list includes Reggie Bush...

Amazing, factually-based point. Super impactful on the discussion.

If you would have read the thread, you would have seen me say multiple times that I said it is unlikely that Jackson has much left. All I've argued in here is that it is possible. I'd say that while it isn't necessarily determinative of career length, durability does factor in. Again, all I'm saying is it's possible. Not likely, but possible. I'm not moving the goalposts on the argument. Plus, I'm not comparing McCoy and Jackson's ability, just their career carries, which I do maintain factors into whether or not a player still has anything left in the tank.

Thanks re: the credible points. If sarcasm were any indicator of credibility, then I'd be inclined to agree with your critique. Here's my statement with the fun taken out of it: "If LeSean McCoy has less career carries than Fred Jackson, and LeSean McCoy is still durable enough to play in the NFL, then it is possible Fred Jackson to be durable enough to play in the NFL."

Spring League showcase game = showcase for NFL not for Spring League, if we're being honest... unless most players aspire to play in the SL over the NFL Also, five true halfbacks have carried the football in an NFL game at or beyond the age of 36, and three of them quite well: 1. Bill Brown had 19 carries for 41 yards at the age of 36 for the Minnesota Vikings in 1974. 2. MacArthur Lane had 52 carries for 277 yards (5.3 YPC) at the age of 36 for the Kansas City Chiefs in 1978. 3. John Riggins had 176 carries for 677 yards (3.8 YPC) at the age of 36 for the Washington Redskins in 1985. (3.8 YPC) 4. Cullen Bryant had a single two-yard rush at the age of 36 for the Los Angeles Rams in 1987. 5. Marcus Allen had 206 carries for 830 yards (4 YPC) at the age of 36 for the Chiefs in 1996, and then he followed that up with 505 yards on 124 carries (4 YPC) as a 37-year-old the next season. Rushing aside, in the modern day NFL Jackson would probably be utilized more for his receiving (2 TDs in 2015 and 501 yards in 2014) and pass-blocking skills anyways. Not to mention that immeasurable quality: leadership. Further: 1. He was a lead back for only a couple years. 2. He’s carried the ball 200-plus times only twice in his career. 3. Adrian Peterson, LeSean McCoy, DeMarco Murray and Jonathan Stewart all have more career rushes than Jackson. (http://thecomeback.com/nfl/can-fred-jackson-actually-play-nfl-age-36.html) Guess we should try to ship Shady before the season for whatever we can get, given that he's clearly worn out...

The distinction is between (1) admitting that probability is not on Jackson's side, and, as 3rdand12 said (2) "projecting doom vs. success." My preference is for (1) because I do not profess to know a player's health or sustainability with absolute certainty. I have no crystal ball, but will defer to those who think they do.

I'll refer you to my words that you quoted: "Is it likely Jackson has much left? No." I'm just, unlike others, not professing to know information to which only NFL scouting departments and the Jackson family/his doctor would be privy.

Which NFL scouting department do you work for? Would love some more inside information.

Here's to hoping we see a bunch of screens and slants to Watkins because, you know, look at his college tape. My ideal outcome is that Dennison expands that Taylor-to-Watkins connection we saw in the first half of the 2015 Chiefs game to a full season: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzrwEpKYHWk

Is it likely Jackson has much left? No. Is it unreasonable to say with certainty that he has nothing left, unless you are employed by an NFL franchise? Yes.

It will be interesting to see where the tension between the following averages out: (1)Taylor as a starter not usually garnering offensive game plans that emphasize a lot of passing and (2) Dennison traditionally running offenses that pass more than those.

There's no way Jackson can still be productive. I mean, look at Anquan Boldin; he's 36 years old and only had 8 TDs last year. Plus, look at the poor play of the 39 year old Tom Brady... Tough to ball in the late 30s? Sure. Impossible? Not at all.

On the other hand, he could take his trillion dollars, buy an NFL franchise, and then own a championship-winning team.

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It's gotta be Marrone and not even close. Sure, Mularky's team folded against Steeler back-ups and helped Willie Parker jumpstart his career, but Marrone straight up quit on his team, and on New Years Eve at that! Plus, even if they are AFC foes, it's tough not to like how the Titans have gone about assembling their roster.

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It's not often you see someone win the thread on the first page. But yeah, wish we could get Barnidge and Boldin, only the former wants to be a TE1 and the latter is unlikely to sign with a team that isn't viewed as a Super Bowl contender. Agree re: Graham > Byrd; especially because one of them is a Buffalo boy - at least he would give some heart. To those who say you wouldn't want a wild card playoff berth... wholeheartedly disagree. You get in there and who knows what happens? Even if you're outmatched, injuries, momentum, bounces, and human referees are all part of football.

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Really hoping we never declare a winner between Brown and Ragland so Brady won't know who is the Mike.

My reply was going to be "so unstoppable we made the playof - - oh wait" I think issue was taken with the word "unstoppable"