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Agree on Gaines and Wright, but although Hodges has been very productive I feel like Humber must be doing enough right and he looks good on the field.

He looks slow. But he also ran a 4.71 coming into the league, so that shouldn't change his game all that much.

The D Line

Speaking of stout CBs who can tackle soundly... anyone else miss Winfield?

I do hope Dennison is saving a lot of the pocket-moving aspect of this offense for the regular season and is forcing Taylor to throw from the pocket now just to work on the worse part of his game.

From Wikipedia's 3-4 defense page, our potential trade partners are: "As of 2017, NFL teams that regularly incorporate the 3–4 defensive alignment scheme as a base include the - Green Bay Packers - Los Angeles Rams - Pittsburgh Steelers - Baltimore Ravens - Arizona Cardinals - Indianapolis Colts - Kansas City Chiefs - New York Jets - Washington Redskins - Denver Broncos - Tennessee Titans - Houston Texans - Chicago Bears" I'd say let's not trade within the conference, so Packers, Rams, Cardinals, Redskins, Bears? We've got recent trade history with Rams. They have Ogletree and Littleton in the middle, but I'm not sure whether they would be seeking an ILB.

Yeah me too, but wasn't going to start trying to project those haha

So Ola mans LT if Glenn goes down?

Couldn't watch the game, but from listening it sounded like he was making plays. 3 tackles and an INT.

QB: Taylor, Peterman HB: McCoy, Williams, Tolbert FB: DiMarco TE: Clay, O'Leary, Thomas WR: Matthews, Jones, Boldin, Holmes, Streater, Tate LT: Glenn, Henderson Jefferson LG: Incognito, Mudge C: Wood, Groy RG: Miller, Barton RT: Mills, Dawkins DT: Dareus, Williams, Worthy, Washington DE: Hughes, Lawson, Yarbrough, Davis ILB: Brown, Ragland OLB: Alexander, Humber, Hodges, Vallejo, Milano CB: White, Gaines, Johnson, Seymour, Wright, Sylve S: Hyde, Poyer, Gary, Anderson K: Hauschka P: Schmidt LS: Ferguson PS: Johnson (HB), Croom (TE), Shorts (WR), Pyke (OG), Williams (DT), Valles (DE), Lindsey (LB), Logan (LB), Mabin (CB), Powell (S)

Can't find a good stream, but Gaines looks like a player?

A guy with as much talent as Watkins surely gets YAC regardless of offensive system. Right? Because talent is the most important thing. And he is soft. He gets injured a lot. Low YAC is indicative of low broken tackles which is indicative of being soft.

at least he's always been slow

I mean, you got real *edit: defensive, not offensive* in another thread when I suggested Watkins might be soft, called me a troll because I have an opinion, and said you had enough of the conversation because the statistics didn't back your ideas. So... pot meet kettle?

Not sure why the difference between talent and production is so difficult to understand.

Great argument strategy: don't respond to any content and name call.

This.

Theory: more explosive players should have good YAC stats. Discuss.

They missed the FG! We rock!

sorry for posting stats and making sense *Update on our WRs who can't stretch the field: Jones for 22 followed by Streater for 28*

Because obviously in the NFL talent/potential > production/consistency

A running-oriented WCO team will not a $15-16 million/year WR who hasn't gotten YAC pay.

Or maybe it's because he's soft.

Our system is suited for guys who get YAC. We traded away a more expensive guy who isn't good at getting YAC and obtained a less expensive guy who is pretty good at getting YAC. Where's the disconnect? (Edit: added more expensive, less expensive)

So the Combine and OTAs mean nothing because everyone is in shorts. Some WRs can be successful with 4.4-5 speed, so long as they don't play for the Bills currently. Watkins would have been good in this WCO, but it doesn't matter that we traded for a WR with better YAC stats - it just matters that we lost one deep threat. Zay Jones' college production doesn't matter, but let's talk about how Watkins was good at screens at Clemson. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking