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cant be a penalty and the e 2 minute warning
That's what I was thinking.
I know it's just preseason, but it's not a good feeling when the referees are literally creating impossible situations just to screw with us.
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Can you show me the link where I said anything about Brissett/Brady ?
I'm just sitting here laughing at the if's and hypotheticals.
Please don't add me to the tall tales of the CoT. You're trying too hard.
If Marylyn Monroe wasn't banging JFK, it would've been me
I'll continue to say that
That's my bad. I lumped you in with MAJBobby in that regard. You'll forgive me for not being able to keep track of which troll is trolling which topic.
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I think Brissett started when NE beat Houston
He did, but he also tore a thumb ligament on his throwing hand towards the end of that game. MAJBobby and Maury have been trolling around claiming that an injured third string quarterback is statistically equivalent to Tom Brady.
Yeah. Let that settle in, and then decide if you want to hop into this can of worms.
That's why I said 6-9 not 6-10.
I didn't blame TT. He just went 6-9 as our starter. The team went 6-10, because TT wasn't the starter for every game.
That's fair enough, but that would just bring us back to the debate over the cause of a 6-10 record. Since we've agreed that the hypothetical loss to NE1 is due to Tom Brady demolishing our defense, the answer remains the same.
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It's funny that you changed the quote to "team," and then proceeded to specifically blame Tyrod for the loss that you agreed is only guaranteed because Brady would have shredded our defense.FTFY.
So our defense loses the shutout, and TT technically went 6-9 last year as our starter.
Sounds fair.
You're not doing yourself any favors. A QB that took his team to the Super Bowl is not the same as an injured third string rookie. Also, last time I checked, they don't allow college players to play in the NFL.Ooo so we are classifying "normal" games now. Ok throw the entire game out
Run the points for and points against (yes take the offense production out too because not a normal game). Then also take the win away as well you know not a "normal" game
Also San Fran not a "normal" game either with BU QB and a college defense
I'm pretty sure I qualified "normal" as "statistically relevant." In order to be relevant, it has to be repeatable. Other teams played against the 49ers with Kaepernick. No other team played against an injured Brissett.
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And I dont take anyone seriously that cherry picks their stats. Fact is we shut out a team. And hung 45 on another bad team. So if you want to discount one you have to discount the other or you just cherry pick your stats to make your false claim. Alot like D.C.
Those two games are not equivalent in their statistical relevance. One is a normal game, the other is not.
Let me guess still counting the Points the Offense scored in that game arent we lol
Yes, but it would only improve the offense's ranking if we didn't. You can eliminate it if you want, but I don't think that would be honest.
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Since the CoT is hell bent on discrediting the defense with a shutout in NE #1, can we take a win away from Tyrod because we know Brady would have killed it if he played. What's fair is fair in CoT twisted logic, right.
So what you're saying is that our defense is so bad that there is no way Tyrod could have beaten Tom Brady if he had played? I'd agree to that.
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DVOA takes care of these sorts of comparisons for us. Actually you could make a very strong case that our DVOA should be even worse because DVOA is comparative. Our defense did so much better against the Patriots than every other team, so our DVOA for that game would have been really high. So yes as bad as we were on defense, it should actually be worse.
That was my point. Even when you use DVOA, which generally does a really good job of adjusting for these things, our defense was much worse than the points per game statistic would indicate. Then when you consider that DVOA adjusts the wrong way for an injured Brissett playing in place of Brady, it gets even worse. I don't know what's worse than worse than not great, but it's probably not good.
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30. Buffalo
31. LA Rams
32. San Francisco
http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/passing
IF ****
Now you're bashing Tyrod by including games he didn't even play in? That's a new low.
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I personally don't think it's fair to take away the Pats game when evaluating the defense. Most teams don't have to face the Pats twice, some don't even have to face them once. So of course our ranking looks worse if Brady plays both games. Him not playing actually makes our defensive ranking more comparable to everyone else. Even still DVOA had our defense in the bottom 5 so you don't need to pretend Brady would have played to make us look bad - we were bad enough as it is.
We didn't have to play Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, or Matt Ryan. Those kinds of things even out. What doesn't even out is playing against an injured third string QB. I don't think that happened in any other game all season.
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Also, if you take out the game Tyrod didn't play, we move into 8th in offense.
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So now we take games out to make stats say what we want. What happens to Offense Scoring you take out San Fran game? Want to play that game
I already said that.. we go from 10th to 15th.
And I already said:
"Except 15 other teams played the same team we scored 45 against. We're the only team who played against the Pats' injured third string QB.
The former is statistically relevant. The latter is not."
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You're right. I'll let you get back to the if's and hypotheticals that prove that having the 30th ranked passing attack isn't a bad thing.
Rex ain't here to save his job again.
25th in yards, 24th in TDs. I don't recall ever saying that wasn't a bad thing, but please stop blatantly lying.
Several #1 defenses (in points allowed) have won a Super Bowl since 2001 but only one #1 offense has. I am convinced it is still a defensive league whatever they say. Patriots is the only team these days winning Super Bowls by passing a lot and not playing elite defense, although their defense is usually stout too.
The Patriots' defenses have been ranked #1,2,6,8,1 for their Super Bowl wins.
Hey MAJMauryCrusher, why does Tom Brady need a top defense to win a Super Bowl but we don't even need to be in the top 20?
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Is your's Nick Foles ?
Not usually a grammar Nazi, but you only had to get four words correct. C'mon man.
Also... Sweet comeback.
The defense tightened up when it mattered against Seattle, and the defense broke in Oakland after numerous consecutive three and outs and a INT on our own side of the field.
Both games were there for TT to deliver, and he failed.
Sorry you can't deal with that
Well I'm glad the defense tightened up for about two minutes out of the entire game.
Seriously? Simone Biles would have trouble with the gymnastics you're doing in your head.
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Except 15 other teams played the same team we scored 45 against. We're the only team who played against the Pats' injured third string QB.On the flip side - if you take out the highest scoring game on offense we go from 10th to 15th.
The former is statistically relevant. The latter is not.
I'm sorry, but did you just suggest that giving up 69 points in two games is "giving Taylor a chance"? You guys are in maximum troll mode today.The D was average...save for a few games where they got gashed in the rum game. They played a big part in all seven wins, and they gave Taylor a chance against Oakland and Seattle.
One thing is undeniable...the winning formula for this team seems to be good defense and a strong run game.
TT hasn't proven he can win in any other scenario
Edit: By "you guys," I don't mean dneveu. I mean Crusher, Maury, MAJBobby. The Three Musketrolls.
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It was just a joke. Like many men, I actually have never won an arguement with my wife. She has absolutely no interest in logic or facts, just how it makes her feel to be disagreed with. Sorry for the detour into non-Bills territory. Now back to your regularly scheduled program.
Is your wife Maury Ballstein?
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Swaggy 7-9 guy
You win.
Don't take it personally. The data was there. I just, ya know, looked at it.
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Yes I think I am done with the deep dive of excuses.
I didn't know Vick in 2011 was also Tyrod in costume
Foles started 1o games in 13 btw
Oh dear. They've completely lost the ability to form cohesive thought. Sorry about that.Again point remains. Hard to use team scoring as how good your offense is when you discredit team scoring defense.
Lose credibility dont ya?
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So you're just going to pretend that you weren't wrong about 2011 & 2013 huh?Only thing that's embarrassing is your omission of Mark Sanchez and Nick Foles.
Womp womp womp. How embarrassing.
Offseason of CoT embellishment rolls along
McCoy did not do as well in 2014 with Foles and Sanchez. He had the second most yards of his career in 2014, but his yards per attempt were tied for the second lowest of his career. So that means he just had a high volume with Foles and Sanchez, and he had some pretty putrid games if you actually go check them out. His yards per attempt in 2016 with Tyrod were over a full yard more than in 2014 (5.4 vs 4.2) AND his receiving stats were more than twice as good in 2016 than 2014.
You done yet?
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Michael Vick. Again, look it up yourself before you run headlong into an embarrassing comment.Which qb's helped him in 2011,2013, and 2014 ?
You asked what McCoy's stats were when he was with Kolb. Since you don't do any actual research yourself, I decided to answer your question. Don't get upset when it blows up in your face.Didnt know McCoy only played one year in the league. And wasnt elite until he got behind TT
And McCoy has always been elite. That doesn't mean he can't benefit more from the scheme he's playing in or the players around him.
Also, your silence regarding the second part of my post speaks volumes.
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There it is. So how big was the increase in Shady numbers from Kevin Kolb to TT?
From 6 starts together (I didn't count the 7th because Kolb was injured after ten attempts and Vick took over):
McCoy 96 rush 370 yards 2 TD
Not nearly as good as with TT. Maybe next time you should actually do some research yourself.
Chances are that any game manager type gets us exactly the same number of wins. Look at all seven, and you'll see the Bills gave up a mere 14ppg. You'll see that TT wasn't a huge factor in any of those wins...mediocre at best play.
You give TT too much credit
Considering the anti-Tyrod contingent has put zero effort into coming up with their own data to support their arguments, I'll assume you selectively remembered that statistic from my post that detailed the following:
Defense ppg in wins 14.1
Defense ppg in losses 31.1
Offense ppg in wins 28.7
Offense ppg in losses 23.5
And that includes the shutout of New England, which doesn't even come close to happening if Tom Brady is playing (the Patriots scored 41 the next time we played them... in Buffalo)
Claiming the defense was responsible for our wins and the offense was responsible for our losses is comical. You brought up the ppg stat, so take a look at the numbers you conveniently omitted. Then try and make that claim again with a straight face.
Here's something else to think about:
Tyrod in wins:
114/184 1174YDS 7TD 2INT
326YDS 2TD rushing
Tyrod in losses:
152/255 1849YDS 10TD 4INT
254YDS 5TD rushing
An astute observer might notice that he actually performed more like a "franchise QB" in tougher games, while the defense performed more like a "melted slice of Swiss cheese."
And before anyone tries to explain it away with a "garbage time" excuse, I'll just point out that the only game that could possibly be considered a garbage time situation is one in which the opposing running back broke a franchise record for rushing yards and set the single-game high for the season. And that game hardly helped out Tyrod's stats.
Obviously Tyrod needs to improve his anticipation and timing. Not only has no one ever claimed he didn't, but the people who actually support our starting QB constantly have to remind the anti-Tyrod fringe that no one is claiming that. And yet, we still get the jokers who insist there is a clandestine conspiracy to proclaim him the perfect quarterback. I would submit that Tyrod's supporters actually know his weaknesses better than his haters, simply due to the fact that they choose to be informed.
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we have no definitive proof that cte is caused by football.
a psa about something with no conclusive proof.
this is a money grab just as much as climate change.
Derp.
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This is getting as bad as the tobacco issue.
Quite frankly, if people want to smoke or play football, all the more power to them. Everyone knows the risks.
I'm a firm believer in personal choice.
I agree with your assertion about personal choice, but the problem is that people didn't know the risks in either situation, and those who should have been responsible for disclosing said risks actually covered them up and declared their product safe when they had evidence to the contrary.
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you're a real bad ass. I really don't like you or your persona around here. I see how they talk this board up and how great it was/is but I can't understand how they have allowed you to continue to be a part of it? no, you don't offend me at all, I've been around a long time and have seen and dealt with your type, it's just an observation on my part. one thing I can't stand is a bully or someone who flaunts their bull **** the way you do.
you clearly give this board a bad name.
oh, and before you come back with your babe, snowflake or any other type of insult you seem to like to use, take it to somebody that may be weak enough to be offended by your charade, tough guy.
You ever notice how people who use terms like "snowflake" are the toughest guys on the internet and the most easily offended and childish pansies in real life? Think there's a correlation there?
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Only time they've ever played each other:I don't care what anyone says. IMO, Matt Moore is better then Tannehill and Cutler. I would rather have Moore then a lot of starters in the league (including ours). Hopefully Miami is dumb enough to start cutler
Moore 16/30 233yds 2TD 1INT -1yds rushing
Taylor 26/39 329yds 3TD 0INT 60yds rushing
You'd rather have the first one? That's odd.
I would be glad if the Dolphins signed Cutler, but I wouldn't be surprised if Moore took over regardless. Either way, I like our chances.
I'm getting sick at the calls
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Hochuli's crew notoriously calls more borderline penalties than most officiating crews. The Bills have also seemed to become a magnet for such calls. I'm totally speculating, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Bills had more "block in the back" penalties than any other team. Most of them are complete B.S. Teams can embellish against us (and other teams; we're certainly not the only ones) and get the call every time. It's going to take a lot of disciplined, sanitized football to reverse that. Meanwhile, the Pats will run a pick play with about 3 offensive line holds every single down and never get called. The NFL is very much a winner-friendly or sensationalist-friendly organization, and we haven't been either for two decades.