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They weren't interpreting the the rule at all. That's the problem. If the referee called intentional grounding on that play, would you say he just interpreted the rule that way?
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All correct, but the argument about initiating contact is moot anyway. The rule says he has to be parallel to or facing his own end zone, which he was not. The rule is very clear. He must be parallel to or facing his own end zone. There is no way to interpret that wording to justify a penalty when he was neither of those things. In Ford's case, he WAS facing his own end zone but the other player ran into him. That is still not a penalty but at least you can say he met the criteria. In McKenzie's case, you can't even apply the basic qualification for the penalty.
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Here's the thing though: you can't block people in hockey. That's interference. In football, though, it's completely legal. And McKenzie didn't hit him in the head, so that doesn't apply either. If McKenzie dropped his shoulder on that play, the defender would have gotten hurt much worse (looking at bruised or cracked ribs). Aside from diving out of the way and letting the defender get to Moss (which is so absurd to contemplate in a football game that I can't believe I even have to mention it), he did the safest thing he could do in a situation where another player is running right at you.
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Clearly doesn't meet the spirit or the letter of the rule. The defender had every opportunity to go around him but he tried to go through him instead. Not a blindside, not moving, not facing his own end zone. Edit: And McKenzie clearly didn't "pop" him or lower his shoulder or head. He just stood his ground when the guy ran into him.
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Just because you make a separate thread about it doesn't make you any less wrong than you were in the GDT. He wasn't moving and he wasn't facing toward or parallel to his own end zone.
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Week 2 Bills @ Dolphins 2nd Half Gameday Thread
MPT replied to Chandler#81's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Nice touch on that pass! Didn't just launch it over everyone. Allen has improved significantly. Rolling left looks like his only weak spot right now. -
Week 2 Bills @ Dolphins 2nd Half Gameday Thread
MPT replied to Chandler#81's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Good. At least they're calling borderline catches the same both ways. Could have made a case for an initial bobble there but after that drop by Miami in the first half you can't start nitpicking now. -
Week 2 Bills @ Dolphins 2nd Half Gameday Thread
MPT replied to Chandler#81's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
This is the first one I remember against the Bills but I've definitely seen lightning delays in Miami before. -
Week 2 Bills @ Dolphins 1st Half Gameday Thread
MPT replied to Chandler#81's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
The defense also goes to sleep for entire drives at least twice per game. We play really well for 45 minutes and really badly for 15. That's enough to keep things close. -
Week 2 Bills @ Dolphins 1st Half Gameday Thread
MPT replied to Chandler#81's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
And the "Blindside block". They're responsible for at least a 7 point swing and probably 10-14. -
Week 2 Bills @ Dolphins 1st Half Gameday Thread
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The only two times it's ever been called against a blocker that wasn't even moving was Cody Ford against the Texans and right now against McKenzie. -
Week 2 Bills @ Dolphins 1st Half Gameday Thread
MPT replied to Chandler#81's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Give it up bud. Wide receivers make blocks on every run to the outside. You won't see that called a penalty on anyone else ever. -
Week 2 Bills @ Dolphins 1st Half Gameday Thread
MPT replied to Chandler#81's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Show me the rule on that one. That happens on literally every run to the outside. -
Week 2 Bills @ Dolphins 1st Half Gameday Thread
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What? That was just a regular block. Mckenzie wasn't even moving. And it wasn't even close to a blind side block. The defender ran right into him. -
Week 2 Bills @ Dolphins 1st Half Gameday Thread
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Wtf? Horrible call. We're not allowed to block anyone. That was even worse than the call on Ford. -
Week 2 Bills @ Dolphins 1st Half Gameday Thread
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That was a nice defensive play. I don't blame Knox too much for that one. -
Week 2 Bills @ Dolphins 1st Half Gameday Thread
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That would also be a bull ***** excuse. His only action was a toe drag to stay in bounds. Then straight to the ground. -
Week 2 Bills @ Dolphins 1st Half Gameday Thread
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(2) Like all other rules, this one is subject to dismissal when the Bills are playing. -
Week 2 Bills @ Dolphins 1st Half Gameday Thread
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It doesn't matter how many feet you get down if you don't control the ball through the ground. At least that's what they've been telling us for the last five years and that's the way they've called it until now. -
Week 2 Bills @ Dolphins 1st Half Gameday Thread
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"We can't let anyone see this screw job we're about to pull on this non-catch. Cut the feed." -
Week 2 Bills @ Dolphins 1st Half Gameday Thread
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In general I agree with this but that was about as obvious of an example of failing to control the ball through the ground as you can get. -
Week 2 Bills @ Dolphins 1st Half Gameday Thread
MPT replied to Chandler#81's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
He toe dragged and went straight to the ground. He may have gotten one step as he was falling but he did not maintain control through the ground. -
Week 2 Bills @ Dolphins 1st Half Gameday Thread
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That is obviously not a catch by the rules they've established with controlling the ball through the ground. -
You're right! 14 fumbles is still a ***** ton of fumbles though.
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I mean... He fumbled 14 times last year and lost 10. That is a ***** ton of fumbles. It's not really a secret that he has major ball security issues. If you disregard the fumbles and the two easy TDs he air mailed, he had a great game. If you don't disregard those, well then we're lucky it was against the Jets.
