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It's not his shoulder. It's his mindset. His body language on the sideline tells you he doesn't care about bad drives or turnovers. If the offense isn't hot right out of the gate, it's like he becomes completely disinterested this year. It really looks to me like he doesn't believe in the offense he's running. When I'm doing my job well and my boss tells me to do it his way instead, regardless of the asinine quality of his way, I don't give a ***** if it fails. I think it's the same thing with Josh.

In a vacuum, maybe. But they played against 2 of the best defenses in the league. We looked like ass against arguably the worst team in the league. We have a lot more to fix than they do.

Waller was the one grabbing. He was playing for the flag the whole time and got it.

The first one wasn't PI. The second one was but they owed us one. They actually owed us about a dozen from that game.

I can't believe we couldn't run out the clock with less than two minutes. Just absurd

There have been a few. Not nearly as many as the Giants' offensive line.

It was a great defensive play to knock the ball out without committing DPI.

That's just another bad one against the Bills? There was only one bad one against the Giants and it was the RTP when Allen left for a couple plays. There was nothing wrong with that hit. Otherwise everything has gone in favor of the Giants. Starting with 2 non-calls for obvious DPI where both probably would have gone for easy touchdowns.

Yeah it was pretty cool when the entire Giants defense jumped Spencer Brown and they called offsetting penalties. Real break there. More real breaks when they don't call the Giants' offensive line for holding like ever.

Right, but then we can tie with a FG. If we missed the 2 point conversion we would need another TD.

Why would we? The Giants need a TD. If they get it then we win with a FG. If we missed the 2 point it would be FG to tie.

Yeah I thought he got about ten yards there. Maybe stepped out?

3rd time this year.

Ah yes, the 4th quarter run defense. Works fine when you're up by 28 and running out the clock. Not so good when the game is on the line.

Oh Dorsey still sucks. Bummer.

Should have been at least 2 Giants ejected there.

Why the ***** is the entire Giants team attacking Spencer Brown? Going to be insane when they call this offsetting penalties.

Holy hell there were 3 receivers on the left sideline during that last scramble. Nobody in the middle 90% of the field.

Wow, getting other receivers involved. That's nice to see.

He's not beating us. We are losing. The offense scored zero points and you're blaming the defense?

Yeah, but there's nothing wrong with all of that when you're at the 10 yard line and willing to accept a FG before the half. Tyrod's mismanagement cost them a guaranteed 3 points.

Tyrod checked into a run. Daboll was furious with him heading into the locker room.

His second one got a head coaching position because he had one of the best offenses in football. Call me crazy but I wouldn't count that one as a failure.

Agreed. We could do way worse for a HC but he needs to be a leader and get these guys a real OC. And our defense has been lights out with McDermott calling the shots.

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