[Recap of the bad offensive plays vs NEP]

6 hours ago, Warcodered said:

and yet we only punted once.

 

Wait I can't remember... Are turnovers better or worse than punts?

[Devils advocate...what is Josh is the problem?]

He gets plenty of blame. It's just a lot harder to actually execute plays than it is to call them, especially when you have defenders in your face right after every snap.

 

He's also a perennial MVP candidate and Dorsey wouldn't make anyone's list of top coordinators in the league.

[Defense should be embarrassed…]

On 10/22/2023 at 5:42 PM, whorlnut said:

I mean, they did score 25. That should be enough against one of the worst offenses in the league. 

 

The defense is missing its top 3 players at all different levels of the field for the year as well as other key players temporarily. They get some grace from me, especially when the offense gives the other teams short fields. The offense is completely healthy and looks like they've never played together despite being on Year 4 of continuity.

[McD Press Conference Comments]

8 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

Do you really think he’s going to call out Dorsey and/or the players in a press conference?  THAT will be the fastest way for him to lose the locker room, not covering for people.  McD is a process guy, so whatever problems they’re having, his foundational belief is that they need to work that much harder this week to fix the issues, versus something he says in a press conference actually fixing the issues.

 

For instance, the OL has looked horrible recently, so yea he could point that out in a press conference, but it’s going to potentially alienate guys on the team, look to some like he’s deflecting the blame, etc.  The best way to calm the critics will be to start winning again.

 

There's a lot of space between "I have no idea what I'm doing" and "it's everyone else's fault." They're both equally bad. He could have said anything and he chose one of the two worst responses. 

[McD Press Conference Comments]

If he's being honest and doesn't know why they're struggling the first half, he's not qualified to keep his job. If he's lying and he does know why they're struggling and hasn't fixed it in three games against bad defenses, he's not qualified to keep his job.

[Watching the Chiefs game. Bills no where near them.]

32 minutes ago, Mojo44 said:

Sustained underperformance, which we are witnessing, strongly suggests our roster is not as good. In cases like this my thick skull comes in quite handy.

 

You're not the one I was talking about but okay.

[Watching the Chiefs game. Bills no where near them.]

42 minutes ago, Westside said:

It wasn’t that long ago that Reid was considered a playoff choker. He gets mahomes and next thing you know he’s one of the greatest coaches ever.

 

Well McDermott has Allen and is still known as a playoff choker. So probably not one of the greatest coaches ever.

[Watching the Chiefs game. Bills no where near them.]

6 minutes ago, juno999 said:

Yeah.  I'm keeping up.  The Chiefs have a better coach and a better roster.  Therefore 2 - 0.

 

I think our rosters are pretty evenly matched but yeah coaching is clearly in different tiers. No matter how you slice it, though, we have clearly underperformed compared to the Chiefs against common opponents. That was all I was trying to get through the other poster's thick skull.

[How is that experiment working, Rog?]

Flying to London on Friday and keeping your players awake all day before a game on Sunday was a much bigger issue than the game location. And it might have also contributed to season ending injuries for two of our best defenders. 

 

Teams that get to London early always look sharper than those who think they're being clever by flying late in the week.

[Watching the Chiefs game. Bills no where near them.]

4 minutes ago, MrJanuary said:

I'm not sure that guys brain functions correctly

 

I'm picking up on that as I read other threads.

[You don’t see the Chiefs stopping Mahomes from running.]

Mahomes only runs on scrambles though. It's not like he gets designed runs. His offensive line is just so good that he has 5 seconds to throw the ball or he can run through a wide open hole. 

 

Josh still scrambles, but he usually has to break two tackles before the line of scrimmage. 

 

But I do agree they need to find a better balance for designed runs that's somewhere between making Josh our best RB and nothing.

[Watching the Chiefs game. Bills no where near them.]

Just now, 78thealltimegreat said:

Uh no the bills scored 20 against the jags the chiefs scored 16 it’s working just fine 

 

Chiefs 17 Jaguars 9

Chiefs 23 Jets 20

 

Bills 20 Jaguars 25

Bills 16 Jets 22

 

Chiefs 40 opponents 29

Bills 36 opponents 47

 

Chiefs 2-0

Bills 0-2

 

Are you keeping up yet?

[Watching the Chiefs game. Bills no where near them.]

1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

No since the chiefs scored 16 against Jacksonville and scored 25 against the Jets so no you’re proving mine 

 

Yeah, the Chiefs scored more points against them than we did and allowed fewer points than we did. We are 0-2 against those teams. Chiefs are 2-0. I'm not exactly sure what point you're trying to make but I don't think it's working as well as you think it is.

[Pick 1 out of the following]

1 minute ago, Roundybout said:

I’m screaming it until I am red in the face. 
 

its. Dorsey. Our problems are Dorsey. He has no clue what he’s doing. 

 

Yup. Offense looks great when Allen can win on his own. Offense looks awful when we need some game planning to counter a good defense.

[Watching the Chiefs game. Bills no where near them.]

6 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Did you watch the chiefs play the jets and jaguars? 

 

We were talking about the Lions. But also, yes I saw the Chiefs beat both of those teams that we lost against. Are you not proving my point?

[Never thought I’d say this. Sean McDermott is a stupid coach.]

1 hour ago, BillsUberAlles said:

Coaches look great when what they do works, not great when it doesn't. If you knew the chess that went into why they do certain things versus another you're eyes would glass over within 5 seconds of the explanation because you wouldn't understand WTF he was talking about.

 

These are not complicated concepts. McVay is a genius for having his receivers run across the field at different depths. McDaniels is a genius for having his receivers already running when the ball is snapped. Belichick is a genius for double covering the opponent's best receiver.

 

Like give me a break.

[Watching the Chiefs game. Bills no where near them.]

24 minutes ago, pigpen65 said:

Yeah. Sometimes it feels like watching a different sport when you watch a team that has designed plays. It's like the quarterback will drop back, look at the first read, the first read is open, the quarterback throws to the first read, the first read catches it and runs for some yardage after the catch. The whole thing can look so effortless when a defense is accurately targeted and game planned for

 

Are you insinuating that our offensive game plan is 90% Diggs 1st read and Davis 2nd read and somehow defenses have caught onto that? 

1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

So what you’re saying is the Bills aren’t in the Detroit Lions class who beat the Chiefs and just lost 38-6 tot he ravens 

 

One bad game against a good defense is not the same as 3 bad games against awful defenses.

[How bad is Allen's shoulder, REALLY?]

6 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

 

I was thinking this. Said on the Post Game Thread, I feel all of the fun has been sucked out of the game for Josh, and he isn't enjoying taken the field anymore with the long drives. Even though there can be logic behind it.

 

Physically, Josh is the best QB in NFL and I stick by that. I'll stick by that no matter how many dispute or argue the point. But he is effected more than most by mistakes, and allows emotions to cloud his judgement.

 

In all honesty, I think the Bills need a Quarterback Whisperer.

 

He is probably the best football player in the NFL. But he's also just a top 3 QB who plays like an average QB when he's not in the right head space.

[Is Von Miller toast?]

35 minutes ago, Dr Divit said:

Might go down as one of the worst signings in Bills history.  
 

Hey the should of thought about the injury risk for a 34 ur old end

 

Yup. I really respect what Von has done in his career, but we paid an aging DE who doesn't care about containing the edge like he was in the prime of his career.

[Defense should be embarrassed…]

The entire team* should be embarrassed. But they're coached to "learn from their mistakes" instead of getting a ***** chip on their shoulder.

[Is the season beginning to unravel?]

4 minutes ago, Riverboat Ritchie said:

We have an average o line.  Only 1 legitimate threat and a bit worried that he seems to be dropping balls now too and below average coaching now. We are in trouble. Bright spots today is Cook and Kincaid looked good. 

 

Our O-line is the best Allen has ever had. Diggs dropping balls is a huge problem. OC is a huger problem.

[You know who I would love to see as the Bills #2 receiver?]

Diggs?

[Are people really that unhappy with our 4-2 Bills?]

On 10/19/2023 at 6:04 PM, SoTier said:

 

Even blind squirrels occasionally find nuts.

 

Occasionally, or every year?

[How bad is Allen's shoulder, REALLY?]

Just now, NUT said:

Allen is the one who lobbied for Dorsey. This is why I hate continuity. Hire the best coaches possible.

 

Agreed. I'd bet money that part of Allen's psychological struggles right now is the knowledge that he lobbied for the wrong guy and doomed multiple seasons.

[Kincaid was really good today]

Imagine if we were drawing up plays for him on 3rd downs earlier instead of the predictable drops from Knox.