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Yeah, the Chiefs scored more points against them than we did and allowed fewer points than we did. We are 0-2 against those teams. Chiefs are 2-0. I'm not exactly sure what point you're trying to make but I don't think it's working as well as you think it is.

Yup. Offense looks great when Allen can win on his own. Offense looks awful when we need some game planning to counter a good defense.

We were talking about the Lions. But also, yes I saw the Chiefs beat both of those teams that we lost against. Are you not proving my point?

These are not complicated concepts. McVay is a genius for having his receivers run across the field at different depths. McDaniels is a genius for having his receivers already running when the ball is snapped. Belichick is a genius for double covering the opponent's best receiver. Like give me a break.

Are you insinuating that our offensive game plan is 90% Diggs 1st read and Davis 2nd read and somehow defenses have caught onto that? One bad game against a good defense is not the same as 3 bad games against awful defenses.

He is probably the best football player in the NFL. But he's also just a top 3 QB who plays like an average QB when he's not in the right head space.

Yup. I really respect what Von has done in his career, but we paid an aging DE who doesn't care about containing the edge like he was in the prime of his career.

The entire team* should be embarrassed. But they're coached to "learn from their mistakes" instead of getting a ***** chip on their shoulder.

Our O-line is the best Allen has ever had. Diggs dropping balls is a huge problem. OC is a huger problem.

Diggs?

Occasionally, or every year?

Agreed. I'd bet money that part of Allen's psychological struggles right now is the knowledge that he lobbied for the wrong guy and doomed multiple seasons.

Imagine if we were drawing up plays for him on 3rd downs earlier instead of the predictable drops from Knox.

It's not his shoulder. It's his mindset. His body language on the sideline tells you he doesn't care about bad drives or turnovers. If the offense isn't hot right out of the gate, it's like he becomes completely disinterested this year. It really looks to me like he doesn't believe in the offense he's running. When I'm doing my job well and my boss tells me to do it his way instead, regardless of the asinine quality of his way, I don't give a ***** if it fails. I think it's the same thing with Josh.

In a vacuum, maybe. But they played against 2 of the best defenses in the league. We looked like ass against arguably the worst team in the league. We have a lot more to fix than they do.

Waller was the one grabbing. He was playing for the flag the whole time and got it.

The first one wasn't PI. The second one was but they owed us one. They actually owed us about a dozen from that game.

I can't believe we couldn't run out the clock with less than two minutes. Just absurd

There have been a few. Not nearly as many as the Giants' offensive line.

It was a great defensive play to knock the ball out without committing DPI.

That's just another bad one against the Bills? There was only one bad one against the Giants and it was the RTP when Allen left for a couple plays. There was nothing wrong with that hit. Otherwise everything has gone in favor of the Giants. Starting with 2 non-calls for obvious DPI where both probably would have gone for easy touchdowns.

Yeah it was pretty cool when the entire Giants defense jumped Spencer Brown and they called offsetting penalties. Real break there. More real breaks when they don't call the Giants' offensive line for holding like ever.

Right, but then we can tie with a FG. If we missed the 2 point conversion we would need another TD.

Why would we? The Giants need a TD. If they get it then we win with a FG. If we missed the 2 point it would be FG to tie.

Yeah I thought he got about ten yards there. Maybe stepped out?