jrober38

Many places around the world defer these cased to an independent 3rd party for review, to eliminate that conflict.

I'm not. If the numbers were bigger, it would be open warfare with tons of blood shed and death in the streets. Most protesters, and most police have good intentions, it's the bad ones the media keeps showing on repeat all day long. None of the peaceful protests across the country are getting any coverage at all. They're just focusing on the most out of control situations to spin a narrative that that is what is happening all over the country.

Trump is a coward. He's a weak man with self confidence issues who wears spray tanner and makeup to hide his insecurities.

Good God. The constitution and first amendment protect their right to assemble, protest and petition the government for a redress of grievances. The vast majority of the people protesting are doing so peacefully. A small percentage of them are going to these protests armed with hammers, bricks and knives with backpacks full of fireworks and molotov cocktails. These trouble makers maybe represent 5% of the crowds. They use the crowd as a shield, throw rocks and bricks at police to provoke a response, and then all hell breaks loose. You can't sit there and say the whole crowd needs to be punished equally, when a tiny percentage of the people are there to incite violence and start riots. Most are exercising their first amendment rights. On the flip side, I'm not saying every cop is bad because a few have been caught on camera spraying pepper spray at protesters who are peacefully kneeling or lying down, following police instructions. You can't have it both ways. There is a lot of blame to go around. A few bad apples in the crowds, and a few bad apples among the cops. That's what makes these situations so difficult to control, because most people aren't doing anything wrong.

Rightly wanted to pay a visit? Sorry, when has Trump been to Church over the last year?

These are the type of scenes you'd see out of China or Iran.

Sorry, who has approved of the rioting, looting and killing?

I'm going to assume many of the rioters are part of the 40 million people unemployed over the last 10 weeks. Low income people working in cities who have lost their jobs and have nothing better to do.

Your reading comprehension skills seem to still be lacking. When did I say it wasn't low? I said, have you looked RECENTLY, and you immediately put words in my mouth, changing my argument, as you always do.

Right. The issue is those jobs aren't coming back anytime soon.

Have you looked at black unemployment recently? It's currently over 16%.

That would be the goal in plutocracy. In a democracy populist ideals, particularly on taxes are much more common. Redistribution hasn't been utilized since the 1960s when the top tax bracket paid 90% income tax. Over the past 40 years, the rich have paid less tax and everyone else has paid more, and the result has been a massive increase in income inequality. Trickle down economics do not work. That's obvious at this point.

Don't get defensive. That doesn't advance our discussion. All I'm pointing out is that the five poorest states in the US based off GDP per capita are South Carolina, Arkansas, West Virginia, Idaho and Mississippi. Conservative principals have obviously not worked there, so the issue is more than just democratic policies failing in "urban jungles". Things are failing everywhere. The solution in my eyes is to go back to a tax system like the one the US had during or just before Ronald Reagan, where the top tax bracket was between 50 and 70%. Raise taxes dramatically on people who earn large incomes, and lower taxes for everyone else. Put money back in the pockets of people who actually need it, and make the super wealthy pitch in more to the system that has allowed them to stockpile their wealth. A wealth tax is also something I could get behind on wealth above like $10 million (not a low threshold). In all seriousness, with where the economy is heading and how fast its heading their with Artificial Intelligence, I think Andrew Yang's idea of guaranteed universal basic income is something to look at. In 10 years a ton of industries that employ huge numbers of people will be gone. Trucking, food service, taxis, bus drivers, etc. It'll all be taken over, or at least dominated by Artificial Intelligence. Technology is obviously taking over the world, and I think within 10, maybe 15 years many of the jobs Americans depend on now will be almost entirely gone and the work force won't have the necessary education to find new things to do in the economy we'll have then. And no, I don't support cheap goods. Over the last few years my wife and I support brands we like, who manufacture domestically or actively try to reduce their carbon footprint. That's our choice to support small businesses with those characteristics, and it often comes at a greater cost but we're willing to pay it.

This solution has failed all over the country in all types of communities. Over the past 40 years, the gap between the rich and poor has grown exponentially and people of all colours have been left behind to live in poverty while the rich get richer. Decade after decade, tax breaks have been given to the people who need them the least, and trickle down economics has proven to be a colossal sham. I agree that most cities have major problems. But so do rural communities all over the South and Mid West. Suggesting this is just an urban problem isn't reality.

This is only true because there are 6x as many whites as blacks. On a per capita basis more blacks are killed and it's not close. Sure is. He wants to be a strong man, but everyone knows he's a coward with confidence issues. He wears make up, uses fake tanner, etc. He's extremely insecure, which is why anytime anyone criticizes him he has to snap back.

Right, but you're not going to change behaviour without changing some laws. Doing nothing is obviously not the solution. That's not an option at this point.

100%. Nothing stopping it at this point until laws are changed. An American Tiananmen Square won't miraculously make people stay home. If anything that'll just make things worse.

Nothing has changed yet so I'm sure the people protesting beg to differ. I get you want it to go away. I'm sure most people do, but the camels back is broken. A man being asphyxiated for 9 minutes while screaming for his life on camera was the breaking point. This isn't ending until real steps are taken to change the way policing is done in America.

Unbelievable. In Buffalo too. Hopefully they're alright.

No one is telling these crowds what to do or how to do it. No one is successfully going to tell them they can't air their grievances. That is why they're protesting!!!

Fair enough. I'm just saying, on Twitter the vast majority of the bad apples have been young white males carrying hammers and bricks trying to lights buildings and cars on fire. Who knows where they're from. Maybe those cities, maybe from outside. They provoke the cops, the cops step in to stop it, and the actual protesters wind up clashing with cops because they don't think they're doing anything wrong. These anarchists know exactly what they're doing. Just use the crowd as a shield to cause as much trouble as possible. No they don't. If they go home, their cause gets swept under the rug until the next time it happens. Peaceful protests are happening all over the country. A lot have turned violent, some a lot more than others, and those are the only ones the media is showing.

That's easier said than done when most go to the protest with a sign and they go to the protest with hammers, bricks and knives.

Right. That's where like 90% of African Americans live. The ones causing trouble aren't from those cities. Several police departments have said the majority of people they've been arresting are from out of town or even out of state. Minneapolis said on Saturday it was like 80%.

I completely agree. I'm just saying it doesn't make any sense to mow down a crowd of protesters when a few people are the problem.

I don't think it's obvious at all. Anarchists want chaos. They might be right or left.