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I thought Gates and Buezo’s were part of the Deep State? Not everything is a conspiracy. Trump lost. His legal cases aren’t overturning anything. His lawyers haven’t brought cases in court to overturn the election. They are just soothing his ego. His route to an improper re-election could really only be via unfaithful electors. For once I agree with Tiberius!

That's pretty dumb application of a Benford distribution. Since most precincts are a similar size (6-800) and most results fall in a similar % for one candidate, you'd not expect them to fit a Benford distribution. More likely to hit a poisson distribution, though I'm no expert on modeling elections. This is just nonsense though, but I'm sure lots of people who don't understand it believe that's it's evidence because, numbers, or something. Waiting on real evidence of tens of thousands of votes fraudulently cast.* *Also still waiting on the 6 million fraudulent votes cast for Hillary. Is Trump's 2016 commission still looking into that?

Even FoxNews's website doesn't have fraud claims. There's no there there.

Hospitalizations record today. Spread out over the country but the trend is still in the wrong direction. I'd really like to see that level out soon.

So this guy recanted his recant, but still has no evidence? Sounds like an excellent witness.

No one here relied on this stupid "evidence," did they?

Why would they transition tag a guy who misses chunks of every season? Big drops between 1 and 2 and 3/4.

Yes x 2. The later point is the more salient one.

The Postal worker hero recanted his testimony about being instructed to backdate ballots. Still no evidence.

I agree with that case--that those votes should not count because the law says they should not and the PA Supreme Court had no right to re-write that law. But they haven't been counted in the total and don't matter to the result (they would just increase Biden's lead assuming they follow the pattern of the other mail ballots). Thus, even a Trump win on that doesn't affect anything.

Yes. 4 confirmed cases of voter fraud in 2016. 158 referrals for voter fraud since 2016, almost no convictions. That's the data. And there has yet to be the bigly evidence required for Trump to overturn this election.

I thought you were being critical of 46's post. Maybe I misinterpreted you. Whataboutism to what? We have a new president coming. He'll apparently be the second one to use his social media platform for messaging (Obama mostly did not, Trump clearly leveled social media use up to the max!). Seeing how 46 uses that platform is something worth discussing IMO. There are a million other threads about Trump here. This is about the new guy.

This is the ultimate question. We have been in a long period of peace and prosperity the likes of which we've never had, and yet have a political rhetoric that resembles warring countries. It will take an unending display of public decency and civility, on both sides, even when someone says or does something insulting, even after your ox gets gored. It is going to be VERY hard. That's how to do it in concept. In practice: (1) Get some early bipartisan wins. Pass a few no-brainer things but do them to huge bipartisan fanfare. "Today we reached bipartisan agreement on Covid stimulus with my friends across the aisle..." etc. (2) As part of (1), emphasize in joint press conferences that the win could not have been possible without hard negotiations and compromise, the stuff of democracy. (3) Publicly show and emphasize some moments of civility. Biden invites Mitch to the White House to discuss health care reform, criminal justice legislation, immigration, etc. Each time make it very public and close with a joint press conference. I would say that's the start. How we get from there--the leadership--to getting people to converse respectfully: That's tougher.

I read the PA complaint today. Zero allegation of voter fraud. Zero evidence of vote changing. Zero request for votes to be switched. Just process complaints and the fear of “what could have happened.” A parade of fantasies around what could be going on at a distance of 10 feet from vote counters and the like, but not one instance or allegation of actual votes being changed. Let alone Rudy and his witness’s claim of 600,000 plus claim. That case is going nowhere for Trump.

You saw something negative in 46’s post?

The content of my post was an early post on social media by Pres-Elect Biden. It will be interesting to see how #46 uses social media. His first post (or his team's first post if you want to credit them) is different. I changed no topic in whataboutism. Others are having those discussions in other threads. I started a new one about our next president and an early post-election post that is only positive about the country we all share, Dem, Rep, or other.

Exactly.

Who?

Everyone always can tell you why they won’t budge. The Dems can tell you too. And yet everyone needs to move in closer to make it work.

Trumps acceptance speech was the right one, or maybe it was his first speech as president. I remember it well and with hope. He had, like Biden will have, an unreceptive 50% of the country and Congress, as audience. It takes a LOT of work to build bridges. Much more than tearing them down, which was surely Trump's expertise. Biden's temperament is more suited to the task because he's worked in the Senate with some of his opposition. We will see if he can keep it up and if there are any Rs big enough to reach across and accept his hand. It is not going to be easy for either side to make the first move or keep it up, but one thing I know for sure, it wasn't going to happen with Trump at the helm.

How about Biden supporters show class? Being a sore winner is much worse than a sore loser.

Did we hit Magox's new predicted lows on deaths in October? He was always saying how right he's been at every step. So many posters here bought into that. Wrong again. For the record (again), I thought we'd hit new lows in September and see no second wave. Turns out Fauci was a lot smarter than me on pandemics. Vaccine news from Pfizer is fantastic. In a major boost to vaccine development, Pfizer and its collaborator BioNTech released early study results Monday indicating that their vaccine, BNT162b2, prevented more than 90% of infections with the virus that causes COVID-19. In the newly released data on the first 94 trial participants to come down with COVID-19, the vaccine was found to be more than 90% effective in preventing the disease. Half the participants received a placebo and half the vaccine, so the new data shows that more people who received the placebo than the vaccine came down with COVID-19.

The only winning-record team that the Seahawks beat so far is the Dolphins. They still have an awesome offense and outscoring them is amazing--definitely a really good win. Things don't get easier next week with AZ. Josh minus the brace looked really good. The game plan in the last few weeks was a little more run-heavy but even so, his throws were a little less on target since the brace went on. The only bad throw I can remember yesterday was a bomb to Diggs down the left sideline where Diggs had a step and Allen overthrew everyone. One concern from yesterday on O: The offensive line was not great in pass pro in the second half.

So far...a little different.