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First time since mid-April the deaths per day exceeded the 7 day average 4 days in a row.

A: The % positive rate has also increased with increased testing. Mid-June the US was at 4.3%. The US is now at 8.4%. Here is a great chart that allows you to toggle state by state - https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states/usa B: Indeed. Deaths will rise, though, as they lag behind case rises, however, we should not expect to see the same levels of death in the south because of what was learned from the first spikes in the NE and advancements in therapy. If we do see the same levels I would be shocked.

Is it getting better? A majority of the country sees the data that shows cases increasing to record levels. A majority of the country knows deaths lag weeks behind cases. Caution should be expected.

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Ditto - especially since it's a single physician's anecdotal evidence

Interesting thing I found researching the NJ deaths. Like you, @shoshin, I can't find anything at the moment that explains their high death to cases ratio.

This liberal would love it. The more people who wear masks, the quicker this ***** is over with. I'd like to watch a kickoff in September.

Pretty ***** you guys think a teacher, specifically this one, a Bills fan brethren, wants to sit home and collect checks. You should both be ashamed. Teachers have done a fantastic job since this crap started in March and should be applauded. Absolutely pathetic statements by the both of you.

Your reason article even states this... Most the evidence so far suggests that people who recover from a COVID-19 coronavirus infection do, at least for a time, develop immunity to the microbe. If that's true, what is the disease-induced herd immunity threshold for the COVID-19 coronavirus? Various epidemiologists offer different answers, depending upon their estimates for the disease's R0 and other variables, but most have converged on a threshold at around 60 to 70 percent. That article seems to be based on the sciencedaily study - haven't had time to check out the mdnewstoday one. The study seems interesting - I'll give it a read when I had a chance. Thanks.

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NIH, Johns Hopkins, Stanford, and May Clinic are all within the range I stated. What scientific institutions/scientists have estimated 15-43%?

Devils advocate position - isn't the point of cryptos to keep transactions private? If cash fades out at the same rate cryptos gain popularity, perhaps crypto eventually becomes the same cash as we see it today. Nerds will then collect hundred dollar bills like we collect silver quarters.

I think scientists agree herd immunity for covid would be in the 65-75% range for exposures to the virus. As to hospitalizations and deaths in LA, their hospitalizations are climbing, and as we have seen, deaths are a lagging indicator so get back to me in a month. I just find it interesting they are the first state to "respike."

Tough day for Flynn. I've read on this forum multiple folks say that he is/has been, how should I say it, Flynndicated.

Louisiana is the first state to have a second spike with as many cases (Actually more at this point) as it's first spike.

? I found a link to support Joe in Winslow's claim.

Interesting. Found this on a quick Google. I missed that Fed Reserve announcement. https://www.wfla.com/mobile/wawa-asks-customers-to-use-exact-change-amid-nationwide-coin-shortage/ The plea comes after the Federal Reserve announced a nationwide coin shortage, saying shutdown orders have significantly disrupted the supply chain and normal circulation for quarters, dimes, nickels and pennies. “In the past few months, coin deposits from depository institutions to the Federal Reserve have declined significantly and the U.S. Mint’s production of coin also decreased due to measures put in place to protect its employees. Federal Reserve coin orders from depository institutions have begun to increase as regions reopen, resulting in the Federal Reserve’s coin inventory being reduced to below normal levels,” the central bank said in a statement. Wawa is letting customers round up purchases to the nearest dollar so they can donate to local charities through The Wawa Foundation. The chain says 100% of all donations will go to charity.

You should have seen the bull#### I used to write on the tip jar sign. None of it was real

Should be a slam dunk case then.

Not sure. In general I don't have a huge issue with buybacks because it increases the value of the company thus increasing shareholder prices for 401Ks, etc. The $5 billion bailout irks me way more. $5 billion / 36,000 jobs is $138,888 / person UAL got from the government. I am sure there are a few hundred small businesses who were unable to get PPP loans that would have used that money to keep employees on the payroll.

If I was ignoring it I would not have an opinion on it. I'm not ignoring it. I think it's Trump using right wing media to rile up his base. It there was a there there, there would be indictments. Trump might only have a few months left...

I believe there is probable cause for the Vance case. Trump is identified as Individual 1, correct?

Unfortunately for Trump the NYS one carries much more weight. If congress gets the tax records and finds something wrong the worst outcome is impeachment. When Vance gets the tax records and finds something wrong the worst outcome is prison.

If we went cashless conservatives could stop bitching about Obama's pallet of cash he sent to Iran. That would be a positive. Realistically, though, to go cashless would take decades of coordination between all levels of government. The federal government cannot even coordinate with itself at this point. All things considered, I do agree a cashless society gets us closer to a dystopia than a utopia. I also see no problem with private businesses being credit/card only because of Covid-19.