Ozymandius

There's no reason to sit JP, though. What for? This team sucks, we might as well gather as much info about JP as possible so we can make an offseason decision on whether to cut him.

JP and Brees are completely different types of QBs and aren't really comparable either. Brees fell to 32 because while he was a smart, accurate QB with all the instincts and came from a winning Big 10 school, people wondered whether he had the physical tools to play in the league. JP was drafted at 22 because while he had all the physical tools in place, he came from a losing mid-major program and people wondered about his accuracy and whether he could put it together mentally (and at the time, people also wondered whether he was a cancer). I don't take any comfort in Brees' eventual success because the reasons why JP was drafted low and why Brees was drafted low were completely different.

I wouldn't consider Schaub for any first rounder, much less OUR first rounder, which is going to be top 15 for sure. Any time I spend a first rounder on a QB, I would want the entire package: brains, arm, mobility. Schaub is immobile, which probably would kill him behind Buffalo's line.

I really wouldn't mind if the entire coaching staff and front office got fired and we just started over from scratch as if it were the offseason again. Marv had no experience as GM and didn't focus enough on improving the lines in the offseason. We just assume that he'll take care of it next offseason, but maybe not. Maybe he's just incompetent. Why wait? Shouldn't you build football teams inside out? Then, he goes and hires a retread loser like Jauron, who in turns hires two coordinators without any experience. Fairchild comes from a deep passing game background, which completely clashes with the lack of talent we have on the o-line. Meanwhile, Fewell implements the stupid a$$ Tampa 2 which is going to take years to properly stock with top rate defensive talent before it becomes effective, and that's assuming no busts along the way, which is unlikely since Marv went and did something stupid like draft a first round DT, which has a high bust rate. Odds are McCargo is a bust or will take years to develop and they already know it, and now they'll go and waste another high pick on DT when what they should do with that position is try to trade for or sign other team's DTs that have already gone through the typical 3-year gestation period in the NFL before they become effective and prove they can play.

And then he went 4-12 and 7-9 and got fired.

Alex Smith was a #1 overall draft pick and last season was his rookie year. JP needs to be the starter the rest of this season because we need as much data on him as possible, but let's not compare him to Alex Smith.

Sigh. Schaub would cost a first rounder in a trade with Atlanta. And Brady Quinn just isn't that good. If Drew Stanton fell to the second round, I MIGHT consider that but there is no QB worth taking in the first round this year.

What makes you think Troy Smith is the answer? He plays on a loaded team in college -- how would he fare behind subpar talent? Just how tall is he anyway -- is he going to be able to throw from an NFL pocket? At any rate, if you really want him as QB, you won't need to spend a first rounder because that's not where he's going.

Preston sucks. No power in his game. Merz probably has more potential, even as a 7th rounder, so that's why he played.

Fine, it might be top 15. Whatever. Still too early for a RT prospect. As for Brad Butler as the starting RT and just needing a guard, bwahahahahhaha.

Yep. http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/nfl/freeagentsOL.html Pursue either Steinbach or Derrick Dockery for guard. In the first round, draft either Sam Baker or Doug Free (assuming Joe Thomas is out of range).

I see you've changed the pick from Thomas to Levi Brown. Well, Brown is more of a RT prospect and won't be a top 10 pick.

PorkChop would just be another subpar signing like Reyes was. Pass. Also, the Bills have almost no shot at Joe Thomas. We suck, but with our soft schedule, we won't suck enough to get a top 5 pick this season. Between GB, Houston, Jets, Miami, and Tennessee, we should go 4-1 there and get to 6 wins, which knocks us out of the top 5. If you wan another OT in the first round, a guy I really like is Doug Free from Northern Illinois.

Benching him after the fourth game last season was absolutely the right thing to do. So was inserting him back in as the starter later in the season. His play was much improved in the second half of the season but that improvement was only made possible by giving him a "timeout" after the fourth game to sit and learn from the sidelines. He was clearly an overwhelmed headcase at that point and needed some time to sort things out.

That's a good question. I checked nfl draft history (http://www.drafthistory.com/positions/qb.html ) to see how QBs that were taken bottom of the first round or second round turned out (presumably, those could be peers we can compare JP to). Here's a complete list of names going back 15 years (parentheses indicate in what round they were picked and what pick within the round) Kellen Clemens (2,17) Tarvaris Jackson (2,32) Aaron Rodgers (1,24) Jason Campbell (1,25) JP Losman (1,22) Kyle Boller (1,19) Rex Grossman (1,22) Patrick Ramsey (1,32) Drew Brees (2,1) Quincy Carter (2,22) Marques Tuiasosopo (2,28) Shaun King (2,19) Charlie Batch (2,30) Jim Druckenmiller (1,26) Jake Plummer (2,12) Tony Banks (2,12) Todd Collins (2,13) Kordell Stewart (2,28) Tommy Maddox (1,25) Dan McGwire (1,16) Todd Marinovich (1,24) Brett Favre (2,6) Browning Nagle (2,7) That's not a list that should bring great comfort. Overwhelmingly, with very few exceptions, if there were flaws or question marks in a QB's game that kept him from being a top half of the first round selection, those flaws or question marks will be his undoing in the pros. What makes JP's situation worse is that we drafted him before we had an o-line to block for him (we still don't have one) and before we had a veteran coaching staff in place who had been in their current jobs for awhile with a set system and roles. Because a swiss cheese line and constant change in management/teaching is no way to develop a QB. My guess is JP will fail, either by his own inadequacies or by the Bills bungling his development. He's experienced a bad o-line and constant change around him but the one thing he hasn't yet faced is a football town turning against him. He will soon, and that's when the shoe will really drop. I mean, the majority of the fans support him now but it will be 50/50 by the end of the season with nobody fully trusting him. Next season, the Bills will hopefully have addressed the o-line, but it's going to take time for them to mesh (especially if they're draft picks) and so JP will likely struggle and make mistakes behind that line again. As Rivers/Eli/Ben continue to succeed, the fans will start to turn on JP, booing his every mistake. He'll start to try too hard and doubt himself and it will all end with a ticket out of town after 2007. I wouldn't expect ANY young QB to be able to survive a situation that includes bad o-line, constant change, and a fans turning against him, much less a QB that was taken bottom first or second round.

Not inconsistent. Booger fits the mold we're looking for. Not sad we didn't get him.

We need to draft/sign a good TE first.

Explain the racism in saying Three White Guys. They're white. There's three of them. They're guys.

Hear hear. I used a THIRD Rounder on that a-hole. I'm such an idiot.

Nobody said they needed to be forced into a starting role they're not ready for. The Bears drafted Mark Anderson late in the draft. They haven't started him but they've added him to their DL rotation. He has 6.5 sacks. Not all, just more. True, but I'm of the opinion that you should build a team inside out. Agreed

Who the hell are these much better players that were bypassed? Personnel management isn't rocket science. You have dire needs along the lines, you draft linemen. The Bills will continue to suck until they do so.

Way to oversimplify it. Nobody said they had to use #8 to get an OT. But they should not have waited until round 7 either. The Chargers are doing just fine with a rookie at LT, a second rounder. Same with the Patriots with a rookie at RT, a fifth rounder.

People have a right to be unhappy after 7 years of sucking with no end in sight. Knowing beforehand that we'd suck doesn't make it better. That's like Bobby Knight telling women who get raped to sit back and enjoy since it's inevitable.

Not true. We should go line, line, line, line for every pick. We should have done that in this PAST draft. I'd much rather have a sh1tty secondary for a year while knowing that we have good young talent on the lines than the other way around. Building a team from the interior out is the right way to do it because the lines can help the perimeter players more than the perimeter players can help the lines. Looking back at this past draft, if all Marv got out of it was two good safeties, while drafting high in every round in one of the deepest drafts in memory, then this past draft was a failure.

When Carolina beat Chicago last year, they were able to pound the Bears with their running game and beat them deep with the pass using Steve Smith's speed (Roscoe? Evans?). On the other side of the ball, you would hope that Buffalo's cover 2 scheme can take away Grossman's long gains with the pass, and Chicago would not seem to be one of those teams that can pound our small defensive front with the run. This game also has letdown written all over it for the Bears. I fully expect the Bills to cover the 11.5 point spread. A victory will depend on turnovers and whether the Bills can score on one or two big pass plays downfield, imo.