Ozymandius

Glennon will go #1 to KC. Fitz sucking but not sucking badly enough has been the death of this franchise.

We need to trade up for Glennon

Because of Mike Glennon. Historically, Fitz has posted an average QB rating of 236.8 in games where the Bills are already eliminated from the playoffs but might be in position to draft Fitz's replacement with a loss.

Glennon is a first-rounder; whether he plays up to it in the future is another matter. But it's a QB-driven league and he's got the best physical tools in a weak QB class. I'm worried about his YPA in college but his Youtube highlights are impressive. Overall, I would not be against drafting him in the first round. We are desperate. Let's at least try for a QB with some upside. If he fails, he fails. But try.

Give me Jones and Bray, the two tall guys with YPA in the upper 7s and lower 8s. Glennon is tall but he's been in the 6s YPA-wise. It sucks that we FINALLY decide to draft QB in a weak QB class but Jones and Bray would be my "shot in the dark" I don't want anybody under 6'4" or with a weak arm.

Fitz has started 63 games in his career with a W-L record of 22-40-1 (or 35% winning rate). He has never averaged more than 6.8 yrds/attempt in a season and he sports a career completion percentage of less than 60%. Maybe somewhere in those 63 career starts, he put together a couple of good games. But we have to start thinking of those games as the exception, rather than the norm. Maybe he was never okay and then messed up. Maybe he was always messed up.

You don't have to have the coaches and players intentionally lose. You can just trade away a few key players for draft picks. For example, Fitz sucks but he's not as bad as Curtis Painter. Fitz is a 6-10 QB, which is basically the worst kind you can be. No high draft pick, no playoffs. The worst situation. We should've cut him or traded him away for a 7th-rounder (or whatever his value is) and then started at QB our version of Curtis Painter. Do the same with a few other key positions, and we probably have a 90% chance at Luck. Nothing is guaranteed in life (maybe out team of scrubs put together two wins despite all this) but we didn't even TRY to get Luck. Again, lots of other bad teams didn't try either, but I don't take any solace in not being another lemming.

The Bills are idiots ( so are many other teams, to be fair). Everyone had a chance to get Luck and we'd be set for the next 15 years. Instead we decided to go 6-10 instead. Idiots.

Believe it or not, it actually IS a surprise to many Bills fans circa two years ago. Lots of the rhetoric around here was about "Fitz is a young QB and improving", "We don't need Luck; If he were putting up Fitz's numbers, we'd jizz", "First round QBs are too risky", "Luck was an idiot for returning to school; now he's going to slip in the draft" Bills fans are dumb

GOP will stay the course and triumph. As I've said before, it's about the candidate. If anyone thinks the GOP is in trouble and will soon be irrelevant or whatever, then you should be willing to bet that the Dems will win the 2016 presidency. I will take any bet from any person up to $1,000. (Obviously if you lose, you wouldn't really pay me 1K. You would just change your username. But I'm okay with that, too)

When GWB won back to back, did the Dems "adapt"? No, they just got a compelling candidate in Obama and started winning. GOP can stay exactly the same on issues, but if they nominate someone like Rubio in 2016, they will win in a landslide.

Krauthammer is mostly right. If you believe the Republican party is in trouble or that the country is in trouble, then you must believe the Dems will win again in 2016. I just don't see it. 4 more years of Obama governance, Obama/Dem fatigue, and the GOP choosing a more "diverse" candidate like Rubio should lead to a landslide win in 2016. The Dems basically have no chance if the GOP takes back some Latinos and women, which they will do with the right candidate.

Republicans will be just fine and are arguably better off with this result. They'll capture more Congressional seats in 2014 and are the heavy favorites to win the Presidency in 2016, especially if Rubio is candidate. I'm not even that familiar with Rubio but you can just tell. He'll win the Latino vote and swing lots of women with his good looks. The timing will work out so that by 2016, the GOP will control the Presidency, the Senate, and the House

That's a horrible analogy. Regardless, you've brought some great info in some of these threads. Well done.

We should've tanked LAST season to get Luck. Not doing that set this franchise back 20 years. (Of course, we're not the only franchise that effed that situation up).

Let me guess. Obama voter

Sigh. All the senior QBs pretty much suck this year and the juniors will very likely stay in school. Buffalo is cursed. Our franchise / fans finally decide that it's time to get a QB (4 years into a rebuilding project, lol), and we end up with THIS draft for QBs.

Just because you have cancer doesn't mean you ignore your AIDS

Just because you have cancer doesn't mean you should stop treating your AIDS.

It's tough to tell people to settle down when on some level, they probably feel like they were lied to (so far). Many expected the Bills to compete for the division, beat division foes, and have a dominant defensive line that would make us like the AFC East version of the Giants, a team that tortures Tom Brady. That clearly, demonstrably, has not been the case so far. (Also, many expected Fitz to play well "again" since his ribs have healed.)

It's a good point. We probably won't go 7-0 in that stretch, but the bottom line is, it'd be pretty inexcusable for this team not to reach the playoffs this season given how easy the schedule is in the second half. We'd basically have to show no spine at all and go oh-fer against the good teams.

It does nothing for us because we haven't been drafing young QBs with potential that can get playing experience in that scenario.

Football's a violent sport and how a body holds up against that violence matters. Two consecutive seasons ending up on IR was another red flag. Also, some players are never the same after major injuries. Maybe this is another case of that.

It's not a huge mystery. When a player's sack totals are trending like this -- 14, 12, 9, 9, 5 -- you probably don't give him $100 million. Some free agent signings work out but very often, you end up paying out the nose for what he was, not what he has become or will contribute in the future.

Yes, -3 at home means the Bills are as good as the Chiefs. Many fans were hoping to be as good as the AFC contenders. (FWIW, the line is actually 3.5 or 3 with juice. Whatever the case, I expect the Bills to cover pretty handily and win in double digits. Obviously I expect them to play better than in Week 1).