billsfan60

Lighten up Francis. Ice is a good guy. Has been for years. Don't understand the snarky comments from ya'll.

If it's same old Tyrod after three I think it happens. Unless, of, course, they manage to be 6-2.

Two weeks for the coaches to install a game plan, two weeks for the walking wounded to heal up and two weeks for the newer players to settle in. Taylor had better show us something. I'll settle for ANYTHING positive. Doesn't even have to be a win. If it's same old same old it'll be time to stick a fork in him.

Not buying it. The NFL is a shining example of a well run organization, and the most surefire way to insure your demise is to lose the global market that sustains you, and that's exactly what will happen if the football season begins to resemble reruns of Gilligan's Island or Bonanza. Those five or six perennial winners are not because of some Machiavellian Big Brother but instead the product of either solid, well run franchises like Green Bay or having the dumb luck to land generational talent like the patsies*** that can mitigate short comings elsewhere. Green Bay will always lurk at the top, close to the trophy year after year. Father Time will take care of the patsies*** and their ilk. Parity will insure the rise of new blood and keep the NFL rollin' along. You have to look no further than our own SB Bills to see how it works. It's safe to say another run like the patsies*** will not happen again. Let's just hope our new owner is the cornerstone for building a winning tradition, because that's where it has to start.

For what it's worth,there was a savioredwards (or something like that) over there, but not an expert on this stuff so I don't want to state it as fact.

Jeez Ice, don't think I'd write the season off just yet. Last I heard he could be back for the playoffs. Maybe Hundley steps up and holds the fort for ya'll.

The simple fact that an individual playing QB in the NFL is expected to throw receivers open, see the whole field, go through his progressions, limit sacks as best he can and execute a two minute drill successfully and Taylor is not doing so and yet is still starting, that he is being held to a LOWER standard than other QBs (both black and white).

Jeez Transplant, said I was in way back on the 1st page but didn't get counted. Does that mean I'm not one of the two dz or so that have been selected to post here now???

May God bless you for trying to bring a sense of dignity to what would otherwise be an unsightly scrum. All hail Ming the Merciless! (I'm just pandering so I'll be allowed to post in the glorious caliphate that is to come) Oh yeah, and I'm in for a Bills win and Tyrod at 224 or better.

Absolutely! This is the guy I've been watching all season. Both Rudolph and Peterman have shown the ability to CHANGE the outcome of a game. That's the mental part of a QBs game you can't teach. They have it, Rosen has it, Darnold, Allen and Jackson... not so much. Taylor not at all.

But it's OK to have your starting QB behind this OL? No? Then the need to fix the OL fixes the deficiencies at QB. No, the QB has played pretty much the same all year so far. Find WR help, that'll fix it. No? We began the season with NFL starters at WR and the passing game was anemic. OK so maybe the defense needs to hold every opponent to 15 points or less. Oh yeah, they're doing that. Then I guess I'm OK with our starting QB being a sack machine who sees half the field, can't throw a WR open, doesn't seem to be capable of running a two minute offense with the game on the line and appears to being risk averse in those situations that call for taking a chance to win a game when we're down by less than a TD. I'm nowhere near as knowledgeable as the rest of you guys, but I don't see a better to time to fix what's broke than right now.

Bye week is the perfect time to move on from taylor. In two plus years he has shown no inclination to improve, why should one more game make a difference? Two weeks for guys to heal up, go dumpster diving for WR help, call up Reilly and get him reps, get Jones a zen master, sen duckass back to Siberia, and oh yeah bench the QB. You only get one shot a year to fix what's broke.

For this to happen taylor has to mentally shift gears before the series starts. He can't do that. He has proven over and over he has one way to play the game and it doesn't include the ability to take a chance on either his or the receiver's ability to make a play when the odds on success are long. There is no gambler in taylor. He's hit his ceiling ...HARD and the team is paying for it.

This makes way too much sense. Everybody on the planet know what you're going to get with Twoyard. Damn near shut off the game yesterday before the last drive. Knew just what was coming.

An here we GO... 4-1

This is exactly what is going on with every Bills forum out there. I've seen and heard enough from McD to believe this week is simply business as usual with this team. If Gaines, Humber and Matthews are out, it's simply next man up. They will game plan to the strengths of who's available not who's missing. This isn't like losing Julio Jones during a game, they've had all week to plan. This is a classic case of fans having been disappointed so many time that it's better to expect the worst and therefor not be once again betrayed. This one won't even be close.

This is the game we find out about the Process. Every team has a game or two with key players out. Playoff caliber teams find a way to adjust and win. The roster moves seem to indicate McD is going all in on shutting down Dalton and ball controlling the Bengals to death. Not a bad plan when your offense looks like a mash unit.

First I can't believe I'm reading this particular post and second I can't believe we needed another endless ongoing pro/con Tyrod rant, with all the real question marks surrounding the WRs, OL and secondary leading up to a must win game. Taylor's contribution should be the least of our concerns.

With the caveat being injuries. Nobody "hates" Tyrod Taylor. He's a great team first guy and doesn't do stupid crap off the field. Everybody wants a Ferrari instead of a Chevy regardless of the fact that you ain't goin' anywhere in a snowstorm with the exoticar. With the state of our WRs even Rodgers or marsha wouldn't be an upgrade. And without Taylors skill set we probably lose both of the last two games. After Carolina I was right there with a bunch of others calling for Nate, and I would have been wrong. We're playing throwback football and it's working. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Wonder if he said the same kind of things about the SB Seachickens (or any KC team of recent memory)?

Sooooo, then this is how I should act??? OK, got it.

Tis is the absolute accurate answer to the question.

Agreed. This is the defining game. Just hold the fort for one more week.

If the Bills get the W this week you have to start thinking this coaching staff is well on the way to a plug and play team where the process actually works. If they're 4-1 on Sunday evening I'm all in with McBeane.

It's not a trap game, but it will define the 2017 Bills team. Down 2 starters, under performing ground game, offense still finding its identity and playing on the road in a tough venue. If they pull this one off these guys are for real.