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Yeah, Allen can be great. They just need something other than him to move the offense once in a while.

I don't know about everyone else, but as I've felt in a number of games this year - the Bills just don't feel like a playoff team. Too much dysfunction, too inconsistent, bad OL, and questionable run defense. I keep waiting for them to get some momentum but they always seem to get stymied. They are just too one dimensional around Josh. I feel like any decent playoff team would crush the Panthers today.

Well, if we can't beat a Newton led team without a placekicker then we don't have to worry about the playoffs.

Have to agree - I have no idea what Mattynh is seeing there. That said, I knew when we failed to punch it in at the end of the game that we were doomed.

We are certainly the frontline contenders for most disappointing team this season. However, OL will be first priority for next season, if it isn't looking for a new head coach. McDermott seems very average at best. You can see better coaches out game-planning him too frequently.

I have no idea who is going to win from week to week, but the Pats are clearly the #1 team to beat in the AFC for now. And Mac Jones is looking good. Next week is a critical game for the Bills. They are behind on tiebreakers at this point.

If the Pats play defense like they have the last several weeks, we will likely see a similar performance to today from the Bills offense. They need to address the offensive issues quickly. Josh Allen needs to be play better, and the coaches need to make that happen. We just gave him a big contract - he's not going anywhere. The Bills next several years all depend on making Allen a franchise QB.

The Pats are good. I'm sorry to say that, but they have put things together and have won 5 games in a row. They have blown out teams like a true playoff team. Until they show otherwise, they are the team to beat in the AFC and they may have the strongest defense in the NFL. The Chiefs seem to be putting things together, and I would have said the Titans until they lost to the Texans today (another bizarre outcome). The Ravens are also in the mix.

Except the Colts were only 5-5 coming into this game so they didn't have a winning record until they beat us.

We can't start Mitch. We have to try and get Allen corrected. Not sure if it's the opposition that has figured him out or what.

Guys, I am preparing for the worst. A new Patriots empire appears to be starting and we seem to be faltering.

Announcers already called it the upset of the season, at the very least. It is certainly the worst loss of Allen's career, given we were favored by over 14 points.

The team is overrated a bit. Time to reduce expectations. I now view the Jets game as a battle.

I think this loss is hard because everyone - including the media - has had such high expectations for the Bills. But, they really haven't been that good. They haven't beaten any teams actually playing well and the O is not clicking most of the time. I think a combination of poor OL play, man defenses not allowing the WRs to get open in time, and bad decisions by Allen are currently a big issue. The lack of a run game is coming back to haunt us. It just isn't a SB offense right now. If we can reduce our expectations - maybe this is a 10-7 team - it makes things much easier.

At the end of the day it's just sports. It doesn't really matter much compared to the important things in life. So, just have fun and don't worry about it much. I also think it goes without saying that the Bills have really not looked playoff worthy for much of the season even with our soft schedule. The offense has especially looked like opposing coaches have figured something out, so I think it helps to reduce expectations. We will be fighting - and I mean fighting - to hold off the Pats for the division championship, and currently there are better teams in the AFC.

Stop with the playcalls that allow Allen even to consider laterals.

not over yet.

Offense finally starting to work again. Glad we finally started to call some plays for Cole to make the Dolphins pass rush less effective.

Yes, the refs are hurting us, but we should be cleaning house in this game. Shouldn't even matter.

Good news - the division sucks. Bad news - we don't look like a playoff team so far today.

The dolphins defense is killing the Bills O.

The Bills D isn't the problem.

Allen looks miserable, unfortunately. I hope he gets it together in the second half. He is falling back to his inaccurate ways of his rookie season. And the OL isn't helping. Frankly, they should be up by 4 scores at the half.

The sky is not falling, but the loss is pretty brutal. Home and against a potential playoff team in your conference that you need to beat. Next week will be the main indicator, however, of what direction we are going. If the offense sputters again against the division rival, we are more likely looking at a long season (and not just because it's 17 games).

This is definitely on the offense. They kept the reasonably talented Steelers to 23 points so far with 2 minutes left (and Big Ben is generally stronger earlier in the season). That's solid. Allen has looked very rough, sadly, and that's a concern. He's slower than last year in his decisions.