[Family Feud (sans Richard Dawson)]

58 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

I thought this was gonna be an ode to Steve Harvey.

 

The only connection I see - and it's a thin one - is when Gronk spiked the Steve Harvey Lego

 

 

[Family Feud (sans Richard Dawson)]

19 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

I'm sure that there was no alcohol involved.

 

If I got the story right it happened a little after noon following an incident where one of the relatives was in traffic court and another 'made a scene'. I think the guy that made the scene ended up getting chased leaving traffic court, called his 16 year old son. It was the 16 year old that rolled the Tundra - with his 12 and 4 year old brothers in the truck. I'm actually guessing that alcohol wasn't a factor - afaik nobody got a DWI or any alcohol related charge and no mention of Leandra's Law. With that said it's also hard to imagine sober folks acting as they did.

 

[Yankees acquire Juan Soto in trade with Padres]

7 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

Any updates on this?

 

Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead? 

 

Soto is still a Yankee?

[Family Feud (sans Richard Dawson)]

https://longisland.news12.com/prosecutors-brawl-on-sunrise-highway-in-north-lindenhurst-was-dispute-between-relatives

 

A few more details but this may be behind a pay wall:

 

https://www.newsday.com/long-island/crime/sunrise-crash-bats-sticks-assault-closed-brawl-f9623hu7

[OT: On this day 43 years ago, NBC experimented with an announcer-less game (Jets at Miami)]

I watched that broadcast and didn't care for it. There's a reason they didn't repeat the experiment. I suppose it could be better these days with large screen TV's and home theater systems.

[This will be the first game I miss in 27 years. Thanks NFL]

7 hours ago, Gugny said:

I doubt anyone likes it. 
 

During the drought, I spent most Sundays belly up to a bar so I could watch the Bills. I’m in Jets/Giants territory. 
 

As much as I disliked it … I got it. 
 

I haven’t had to go to a bar in years now that the Bills are good and the NJ teams are trash. 
 

Ots just the way the cookie crumbles. This is nothing new. 
 

I probably averaged $40 every time I went out to see a Bills game. 
 

Im gonna pay $5.99 to watch them on Saturday. 
 

I think it’s all about perspective.

 

Yeah, I get it too. It's our choice whether to plunk down the $5.99 for the game on Saturday. I live in Jets/Giants territory too and my choice during the drought was to not see the games - because I wasn't going to a bar at 1 PM on a Sunday and I wasn't going to pay for the Sunday ticket. Looking back it probably saved me a lot of misery, lol.

 

I'm just getting fatigued  having to figure out if I have access to a game and on which service. And it's not just football. Last night I was expecting to watch the Islanders until I hunted around and found that I didn't have access. I've also watched some pretty crappy broadcasts - last year the video quality on Amazon was pretty bad and the Apple TV baseball broadcasts teams have been God awful.

 

 

[TV Characters you Belove]

3 hours ago, Steve O said:

Haus Cartwright 

Stan Wojciehowicz (Wojo from Barney Miller)

Archie Bunker 

John Dutton

 

 

 

Inspired by Wojo I'll add Dietrich and Inspector Luger and Yemana and Harris and Fish....

[The Vibe of this Team feels different… to me at least]

3 hours ago, Simon said:

 

I despise matchups against teams that have nothing to lose.

All predictability goes right out the window.

 

I'd argue that predictability is an illusion in the NFL - and something that the most ardent/knowledgeable fans are oblivious to. 

 

It's why it's so compelling imo.

[Random talking head says something about the Bills]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

We already knew all this.  The Bills may have to pay for the sins of losing to bad teams but the hole wasn’t dug too deep yet.

 

In fairness we also caught a break on the non-call at the end of the Giants game. We're at where we are at, regardless how we got here it's water under the bridge. Still need some help but I'm looking forward to Saturday.

[This will be the first game I miss in 27 years. Thanks NFL]

1 hour ago, Gugny said:

How is it different?  Let me paraphrase/summarize:

 

”Hi, everyone!!  I own a Bills Backer bar!  We will be showing the Bills game LIVE for all of you local Bills fans!  
 

I’m probably gonna make a shitton of money from all of you and I thank you!

 

However … I am not here for your patronage … I am here for your pity. 
 

Yes … I could come to my own bar and watch the game with all of you. But I’d really rather watch it at home. 
 

But apparently the taxes that I pay somehow DO NOT INCLUDE free access to a paid streaming service that is necessary to have access to if I want to watch the game. 
 

Sure … my bar has access. Sure … I have a login and a password that I can use at home. 
 

But … after DECADES of supporting a team that has generally been horrible, now that they’re actually GOOD, I will be DAMNED if I will let the NFL dictate that I actually log in to paramount.tv!!!

 

The time has come to take a stand!!!

 

For what, you ask?  
 

I don’t f*cking know.

 

BUT THIS IS THE TIME!!

 

P.S. - I’ll be watching the game at home if you want to pop over.”

 

 

 

 

A lot of folks are crapping on OP - and while I get that the particulars for OP are sketchy I'm sympatico to the over-arching point. Does anyone who isn't watching their favorite team on an illegal stream actually support the current trend? If so, why? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[List TV Characters You Can't Stand]

I can honestly say I never watched an episode of The Nanny but I couldn't stand Fran Drescher from whatever previews/commercials I saw.

 

I also couldn't stand Joe Mantegna in Criminal Minds - or anything else I ever saw him in. 

 

 

[McD is crazy for wanting to establish the run and play complementary football]

14 minutes ago, Man with No Name said:

it's nice to have a competent o-coordinator. on the other hand, if he is competent for the rest of the year and again next year, we will have to start again from scratch. 

 

I'd argue that competence in coaching is an expectation not a 'nice to have'. 

[NFL will look at the fumble-out-of-end-zone rule]

25 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I agree it is unlikely to change more widely. But I still think that is the best balance of fairness. The rule at the moment over favours the offense everywhere but through the endzone where it over favours the defense . 

 

This is exactly why I think giving possession to the defense at the spot of the fumble when it's out of the end zone makes the most sense. It preserves the field position advantage for the offense.

 

I think the fundamental difference of opinion on this is how folks view "out of bounds" vs. "out of the end zone". IMO they are fundamentally different and  should be treated that way. Others see them as fundamentally the same.

[NFL will look at the fumble-out-of-end-zone rule]

If they change the rule I hope they just give possession to the defense at the spot of the fumble instead of making it a touchback. 

[Pats and Belichick will break up after the season according to NE reporter]

 

The best part of this story - whether it's true or not - is that I don't care. I'd have no problem if they kept him around.  

 

Either way it doesn't move the needle for me. Not like when Brady left NE (which was great) or retired (which was better).

[Toney saved us from another Billsy moment…]

8 minutes ago, Zag20 said:

If it takes 5 minutes of super slo mo replays to figure it out, call stands as called. If it’s extremely obvious on the first TV replay and 95 percent of the viewing audience knows it, that needs to be called. For example, missed facemasks, obvious holding, stepping out of bounds, intentional grounding, horse collar tackles etc

 

I completely - and respectably disagree. Far too many times we have 5 minute slo-mo replays to 'figure it out' and the announcers, the highly respected former official, the viewing audience and the guy who actually makes the decision all have a differing opinion. It's an exercise in futility. Get the egregiously bad calls right and live with the rest - we're stuck with living with the rest either way. 

[Tyler Dunne story on McDermott - 3 parts, 25 interviews, one damning conclusion]

20 minutes ago, Kincaid Kool-Aid said:

All fair points. I just still feel like it took a lot of time for these players to say anything outside Hyde until today. As others have pointed out repeatedly, if that’s my coach who I love and respect and I think he was slandered, I’m making a point to come out immediately to set the record straight. Forcefully.

 

Point is, I guess we’ll never truly know how accurate Dunne was in capturing true player sentiment until years from now when this era is over, if we ever know.

 

WRT the bolded, another point of view is that if the players respond immediately it gives legs to the report. If they think it's utter BS responding just keeps the story public and maybe the reporter gets more pub. It's kind of like trolls on this (or any other) site. Some folks are just looking for attention for personal gain or attention.  Ignore them and it goes away quickly. 

 

I think the Bills played this perfectly.

 

FYI: all of the above doesn't make me question whether Sean should be the coach past this year

[Toney saved us from another Billsy moment…]

7 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

I said same thing today. Game took 5hpurs it felt like... and were overturning original calls, where it takes 10mins scrutiny to arrive at?

How can it be both 10min case study and clear enough to overturn.

 

Here's what I'd do... 1 team challenge a game, keep them inside 2min drills with upstairs call. Refs get max 2mins once they start tape, if it takes more than 2mins, it's not clear. Streamline this.

 

Even better If you apply all this AND use a command center.

 

Replay should be for egregious absurd bad calls to be fixed, or atleast a quick fix on less vital challenges. 

 

It's made the game worse and the calls are no better. And fans are even less clear on rules then ever before, we just knew what a catch was or wasn't. A little common sense and bones of rules had everyone on same page.

 

Now we have to declare a state of emergency, bag the grass as evidence, check for DNA Matches... meanwhile 10million fans at home are subjected to a proctologist exam

No the one I saw was 2 outside wrs on opposite sides. Each one ran an in route on opposite sides. Once catch was made it was much more a cross field pass then a standard hook n lateral.

 

Texans run it maybe? The play was For a long first down conversion

 

This deserves more than just an awesome.  

 

I guess I'm on a crusade cuz I just made this comment in another thread - the most sensible solution I've ever heard is to eliminate slo-mo from replay reviews - if it isn't obvious in a real time replay let it stand. It'll never happen, but that's the best solution I've ever heard.

[The weekly "most suspicious officiating moments in the game" thread]

1 hour ago, Simon said:

 

I'm not going to have an ongoing debate about officiating so I'll say a couple things and zip it.

 

#1 - In no football game that I'm familiar with is that ever a catch; like Kelce's "catch" it was just another example of the problems that micro-officiating have led us to.

#2 - It's a designed pick play for Sherfield and Shakir, and Trent went after it like he'd just heard a joke about his Momma; no flag should have ever come out there and if one stupidly did,  it was just as much on Sherfield as the DB and imo, more on him for clearly initiating the contact.

 

 

I couldn't agree more with the bolded. Watching the game with my son we had a few instances were we disagreed on which way the call would/should go. It detracts from the product imo.

 

Best suggestion I ever heard (from a poster on this board) was that instant replay reviews should only be done with real-time replays, no slo-mo. Unfortunately it'll never happen. 

[Toney saved us from another Billsy moment…]

28 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

Nope. That frame is after the ball is snapped and the blue line is not official.

 

 

IMO this is a shining example of how instant replay has made the game worse. If we go the Zapruder route on every single play, I have no doubt we'll find something to complain about on a large number of plays. Replay is a necessary evil but the slo-mo replays do more harm than good.

 

[Win was great BUT…]

Everyone has a big but. Let's talk about your big but. 

 

Disclaimer: the statement above is a movie quote and should not be construed as a negative statement about the intent of this thread or OP.

[Bills @ Chiefs Postgame Thread]

33 minutes ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

Bills close to being Offside on that 4th down play.  I think he assumed he had a free play but no flag.

 

Thanks - but my son subsequently showed me the press conference and he was upset that Toney was called Offside on the throwback play.

 

Just speculating, but maybe some lingering p!ssiness from the non-call at the end of the Packers game.

 

Definitely not a look I've seen from Mahomes. The fact that he was that p!ssed after the game makes me wonder if it affected him on the three plays that followed the penalty.

[Tyler Dunne story on McDermott - 3 parts, 25 interviews, one damning conclusion]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He does. And even had that Toney play worked that was a complete freak. Now don't get me wrong the Bills losing to freak plays is a theme. But you couldn't have legislated for that. 

 

He called a good final drive. Blitzed early. Simulated late. And as a result even on the simulated blitz Mahomes was fidgety.

 

Maybe the wrong thread but can you imagine the headlines and on-going narrative  if that play had stood given the timing of Wycheck's untimely death.

[Bills @ Chiefs Postgame Thread]

What was Mahomes p!ssed about?

[Tyler Dunne story on McDermott - 3 parts, 25 interviews, one damning conclusion]

1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

King’s melodramatic comments about how New Yorkers will be so deeply offended and hurt by the comments because of where 9/11 happened is SUCH corny BS. I lived in NYC then and still live there now, and I can’t imagine anyone feeling stung or angered by McD’s AQ motivational speech. King has a real weakness for hackneyed, middlebrow cultural analysis and sermonizing about it. Stick to football.

 

I was just about to comment that I live fairly close to NYC and I don't think this story has the traction around here that folks think it has. I heard a local sports talk guy yesterday bemoan that he was surprised the story already went away a day after it broke.