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WOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOO It's about time, did Ralphie just awake from his coma?

The idea of a conspiracy of some sort isn't out of the realm of possibility here. I wouldn't necessarily call it that though, more along the lines of Trent just being a little B word and trying to prove some sort of point. I actually think that TE is just a lousy quarterback and even worse coming off little practice and a 2nd concussion. He probably would have trouble making it as a 2nd string on most teams in the league and he is going to be lucky to get even get a couple of tryouts for next year once the Bills cut him on January 4th.

+1

Would it be unheard of to cut your starting quarterback this late in the year. Trent absolutely blows and those throws no where near Owens were strictly on Edwards and not Owens' attitude.

BINGO

That #34 was pretty damn good. It would be amazing to see a RB of that caliber wearing the Red, White and Blue again. Nothing against Jackson or Lynch but neither of them combined talent-wise could carry Thurmans' jock.

What about starting Roscoe at QB in a Wildcat formation? Obviously, the Bills have 2 of the bottom 3 or 4 quarterbacks in the league. Why the hell not try something different? I know AVP only knows about 3 formations but trying something different wouldn't hurt at this point in the season. There is no hope anyway, give the ball to your playmakers, Trent and Ryan have proven that they aren't them. Even if the Bills don't thrown downfield for the rest of the year, most, if not all teams, won't notice anyway. The Bills haven't tried to stretch the field more than 10 times this season anyway.

The Bills could technically have the best offensive line in the game(which right now they don't) with TE as the QB and everyone would say that the line sucks. When the QB has 4-5 seconds to throw (which is most of the time if you watch the games), he should be able to find someone open other than the checkdown RB. Sure, maybe the WR's aren't getting open enough but Trent has shown that he has a HUGE inability to throw the ball in a timely manner when needed.

You are correct, this is a simple offensive system they have put together. So simple in fact, that players from the opposing defenses laugh at the simplicity of it and can't believe that the Bills don't offer more of a scheme than something they last saw when they were playing in the 115lb. class of Pop Warner. I can't wait to see the imagination that AVP comes up with this week to have Trent checkdown on his first 10 pass attempts along with getting sacked 3 times, fumbling twice and throwing a pick, all before halftime. This offense is the worst since the 84-85 Bills and Edwards ranks right up there with Dufek, Mathison and Marangi as possibly the worst QB's ever to wear a Bills uniform. Of course, JP, RJ and host of others can lay claim to that title too.

Just another circus event under the Big Top formally known as One Bills Drive. If there is some sort of move afoot to activate Hardy at Owens' expense(or even Roscoe's for that matter) I don't blame the poor bastard in any way. He came here trying to do the right thing. The Bills ownership, front office and coaching are the circus act here, not the players.

Quarterback!!! Hand Down!!! If the Bills get a quality QB early in next years draft, the line inproves by default. Sure the line is a bit suspect but the Bills haven't put anything under center that would actually qualify as a NFL caliber Quarterback. The QB will make the running game look better too. Once teams realize that they can't put a vanilla defense out there to outsmart the opposing QB, they will finally be on the defensive against the Bills.

+1

Put the Crack Pipe down. It's 9 weeks into the year, don't you think other teams would be gobbling up ALL THESE PLAYERS if they were worth a ****. Good Lord man, get a clue. The Bills could cut their whole team and maybe 5 or 6 players would be looked at by other teams. There is no one out there to help this train wreck. Just deal with it like all of us have for a decade now.

January 4, 2010 The day Dick Jauron and the entire coaching staff, along with most, if not all, of the front office are shown the door at One Bills Drive!!!!

Barrel..........Falls and not one of those fancy padded barrels, just a wooden one that will shatter its contents when it hits the rocks below!!

Pretty Sobering stuff! The only aberation on there is Trent's stats from last year, which I trully believe are an abberation, considering how bad he sucked it up last year to close out the season (sans the Denver game). It's obviously the coaching to an extent after seeing how DJ "system" is a killer to any offense, though we all saw this years ago. Trent's head and overall ability still screams at the Bills to draft a QB next year in the first two rounds. Trent isn't the answer and regardless how much DJ's coaching sucks, Trent sucks right up there with him.

I'm calling BS on this poster. There is no way this guy loves Dick this much unless he is a Butt Pirate.

I keep seeing this on Page 1 of the forum and keep thinking to myself, this guy is an IDIOT. There is nothing that can be heard out on this one. The poster is a tool, plain and simple. He must either be high, a Jets, Phins or Pats fan or has no clue what has been happening at the Ralph and other locals the past 3+ years. The only way that Jauron should be kept in any form in this organization is to make him the official dunk tank clown at the Bills Experience prior to the games.

I'll have what he's having please!!

This whole question is loaded. If you want them to fail, you aren't a "true" fan and if you want them to succeed, they might keep the worst coach in the history of this franchise, and quite possibly the NFL. There is no right answer. IMO though, I am kinda hoping they lose out, though a win against the Fish would be mighty sweet. Unfortunately, 2 wins the rest of the way is probably the best case scenario. We all know Dick's track record against teams with winning records so the last 3 games are all losses, along with the Jets at "home" in Toronto. Miami, Jacksonville are close enough to having a winning record that those will be losses, so that leaves the Titans and Chiefs, which are both on the road so those are a crapshoot. It really doesn't matter what any of us want as far as Wins, as long as Dick is leading this sorry bunch, they don't have a shot at anything more than mediocrity.

or keep his hands out of them

Well, one thing is for sure, the Bills are loaded at the #3 Quarterback position. At least they can say that they won't be drafting a solid #3 guy next year, someone who excels at carrying the clipboard. Throw in Roscoe and the Bills are 4 deep at the Headset and Clipboard position. I say come out of the bye week and start Roscoe in the Wildcat. Obviously everything else the Bills have tried on offense has failed. The coaching staff is (should be) in a lame duck status, so why not. Screw conventional wisdom and just say screw it for the rest of the year. Can they really get any worse??

Edwards is and will be nothing more than a mediocre Quarterback. Given the fact that he has regressed the more he gets hit, my guess would be that he will be out of football or backing up JP in the UFL in a couple of years. The Bills need a change at the QB position, among others, along with a new coach, front office and owner if possible.

7 is tough, I think I could go as far as 11 or 12. I didn't include McElvin, Jackson, Levitre, Maybin or Nelson