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1. It's possible the Bills think one of the qb's is a sure thing. They could be right, could be wrong, but they probably are better informed and better evaluators than anyone on this board. 2. a good gambler doesn't bet the farm because if he is wrong, game is over, he goes home (if he still has one). an nfl gm can bet the farm, because if he is wrong, especially early in his tenure, he still has his job tomorrow,and has (in Mcbean's case) several years to recover from his mistake.

If they think Rosen is a starter from day one, they will get him. while I think trading up is almost always a losing proposition, if you think you can get a long term stud at qb cost becomes meaningless. You can always fill in around your qb through the draft, through midlevel FA signings, or through trades. If you don't have enough draft choices because you spent so much to move up in the draft, you can meet your other needs through free agency, as you will be in good shape capwise when your usually most expensive player (qb) is on a rookie salary. There are always ways to get any position filled except qb. For the right qb, cost doesn't matter. The problem is identifying the right qb. If you've done that, you can dicker with a trade partner about what you have to give up to get your guy, but beyond that, the process is pretty much a foregone conclusion. That's why I believe the Bills have already come to terms with the giants. In the giants, the Bills will have a trade partner who can provide them what they need, (Rosen or Mayfield) and the Giants have a trade partner who can give them what they want (many draft choices, and possibly Cordy). There is no reason the details couldn't have been worked out already. Again, this is all predicated on Rosen being the choice. ( Mayfield doesn't seem to be a Mcbean type of guy) The right qb is literally priceless

you're right. this is all predicated on Mcbean feeling there is a day one starter in the draft. If he does, he'll trade up, I think for Rosen. If he doesn't, he won't. One other point. Pegula didn't get where he is without taking calculated (not wild) risks. He hired Mcbean who has shown he's willing to take risks (i.e. watkins, darby, dareus). Mcbean is strategic in his thinking, but he's shown a willingness to be bold.

you're right Bill

I don't know which qb's the Bills value or want. They have (hopefully) many skilled football people who know far more than me. I do know, however, what Mcbean says and does. 1. The NFL is a quarterback driven league. Just look at rules and rule changes over the years, to say nothing of league standings. 2. You can win with a mid-level qb, just not consistently. 3. Mcbean has said the Bills want to be long term consistent winners. 4. To be long term consistent winners , you need a stud qb (a consensus consistent top 10 qb). I'm pretty sure Mcbean didn't get to where they are without knowing this. 5. You can get a qb through trade, FA, or the draft. 6. Chance of stud qb through trade or FA is low. I know-Brees, maybe Cousins. But true stud qbs are rare by this route. If you are a gm, and have your stud, you are not going to trade him, or let him go FA, (unless you screw up like the redskins-and even there, not sure cousins is your stud). 7. Draft- you can go for a day one starter (extremely rare) or go for qb with a high ceiling who will probably need to sit behind a bridge qb for awhile. 8. The Bills just traded TT (truly the definition of a bridge qb who is serviceable while you are rebuilding your team and letting your high ceiling draft pick, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, etc sit and learn) They are going for a day one starter. If not, they would have kept TT. 9. only possible day one starters are Rosen, Mayfield, maybe Darnold 10. The draft- Browns just got their bridge qb, if they go qb at 1 or 4, probably go Darnold or Allen Giants don't have to go qb, have lots of holes, could definitely trade down Colts Possible trade down if Luck is ok, qb if they doubt Luck Browns Broncos are in win now situation, probably don't draft a qb, go with the best established vet they can put on the field today 11. The bills will trade up to #1,2,or 3 if they feel Rosen, Mayfield or Darnold is a day one starter 12. Most likely trade partner is giants where Beane knows and presumably trusts their gm and vice versa. (my guess is the deal is already in place). 13. All this is predicated on the Bills feeling Rosen or Mayfield is a day one starter. They haven't been collecting draft choices since they got here to pick a game-changing DT or linebacker. They're nice but don't win championships . They're here to get a long term stud QB. They may hit, they may miss, but look at their words and actions.

and what possible difference do the playoffs make? the bills at this point are a truly mediocre team. their record shows it, their play shows it, their coaching shows it. I would like a good team to be able to follow and root for. play-offs, tyrod, nate, all irrelevent as far as I'm concerned.

it's time to get rid of all replay. slows the game up, sucks energy out of the viewing experience, and doesn't improve quality of officiating. let the refs call the game on the field. sometimes they'll screw up. no more than the replays do

how about this- if the bills had 21 other starters as proficient at their positions as TT is at his, does anyone doubt playoffs. sure there are better qb's, but TT is not the problem

Is this a record? Has any team manged to miss the playoffs for 16 straight years since the merger? In this age of parity, with the salary cap, and the draft process, and the scheduling procedures, all designed to weaken the strong and strengthen the weak, I think it's time to embrace the Bills as baseball fans have embraced the Cubs. The Bills may be losers, but at least they're our losers, and we know we can always count on them to do what they do best, in new and creative ways that continue to amaze us. I can't wait until next year, as we go for 17!

As a Bills fan since 1960, having seen huge changes over the years, and having seen both great and unwatchable football, I'm wondering if today's fans in general (not just bills fans), are honestly more interested in real teams, or their fantasy teams?