4th&long

A lot of us off most have been on message boards for more than a decade, some even longer. This is nothing new. Why people need to get on here and cry about it, it’s worse than anything else. Let people vent, ignore it and move on.

Who expects fans to have a productive conversation about football? What do a lot of us know? Not much or not as much as we like to think we know. But we do all have opinions. Some fans are tired of the same ending every year. Some fans are just happy to watch the team play no matter the outcome. I know for me after watching this team for 45 years or so all I care about is the Super Bowl. I didn’t even really enjoy the regular season this year mainly because from mid season on you could tell this team was way overrated. That caused me to ask myself a few times during the season what am I watching this for? What enjoyment am I getting from this? The answer was not much. I really would have been in my garage working on something. By the time I came to that conclusion it was winter and too cold to be working in the garage. I’m not sure how much I’ll watch next year, a lot depends on Fraizer and what he does with the D, but I do know this, I am insulating my garage before next winter!

I think it’s firmly on the coaching staff to get it right. We have the players to get the job done. It’s that simple.

After what we have witnessed in the playoffs the last three years I’m surprised this is even a topic for debate? This is a soft defense. Teams don’t fear it. what is the definition of insanity? doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result? some people get off on #1 and #2 ranked defense. that’s great for them it means nothing to me with out a Super Bowl title. a quarterback as hot as Josh was last year and the #1 ranked D? They should have easily won the Super Bowl. 2000 ravens #1 D won it with Trent Dilfer at quarterback fcol!

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

A whole lot of tuff talk lol.

Do people really get insulted when someone writes a post like this?

Wow. I figured what ever happened to Kim was serious since we haven’t seen or heard from her or anything about what happened to her. But I had no idea it was that bad. Thankfully she survived and I hope she gets well soon.

You run the D to fit your players. You don’t try to run a your scheme and try to make your players fit it. now this D is softer than a pillow but I don’t know if that means changing to a 3-4 is the answer?

Too many holes on the roster especially considering the cap situation. Too stuck on their defensive scheme. It it’s old, tired and played out! And the better the o line and D line and get a legit wr2. now you also have Edmund’s and poyers shoes to fill. how are you going to do that with the cap situation? good luck! A 13-3 team is already in rebuilding mode.

Not puzzling at all. Fraizer is running macdermott’s defense. To get rid of Fraizer macdermott would need to go.

I didn’t say to take the qb out of the cap. I said they better loosen it up a little. The cap is not going up as fast as players salaries. As a fan I don’t care about the cap or what the owners and players make $. I care about putting together a winning team. We finally get a good team put together and we have to watch it get broken up because of the cap? I’m not ok with that. Again. I don’t tune into a game, go to a game or buy a jersey because of the owners.

They were all in this year. Look at the cap situation. We are $17 million over with a lot of holes to fill. We are going to start losing some of our better players because of the cap. i am starting to lose interest. It was the first time I was ever glad a season was over. I am not ready to sit through another 17 game season and get kicked in the nuts again in the playoffs. If people are fine with 12 win or so regular season then I am sure they will be happy with this team and coaches. i am beyond being happy to just make the playoffs. After 45 years of flowing this team it’s time to win a Super Bowl. I don’t see it happening with this D scheme and coordinator and a Chuck And duck offense.

I don’t know about that but the owners better loosen up that cap. I have never tuned into a game, went to the stadium or bought a jersey because of the owner in the box! Works for who? After waiting 20 years to get this roster built now we get to watch it get broken up because of the salary cap?

The bills D scheme is tired and has been figured out a long time ago.

Too funny. Some team looks even worse today and they are not playing!

This is where the bills quit last week. We’ll see how SF responds?

If they bring all the coaches back I expect a god regular season record, 12 wins or so. Then an early playoff exit. Why would it be any different than the last 4 years?

That defense needs an enema! Stats are for losers which is what the bills do in the playoffs. Change the D, get rid of Fraizer. Get Josh some help on O. teams have figured the bills out. if the bills don’t make some changes like levy did in the opening game of 1990 with the no huddle things will just end up the same. Come out with the same boring stale stuff and the jets and Miami will pass us!

Well that Ought to do it. We’re back on track!

This defense feasts on weak teams. So stats can and do lie. If our offense gets a good jump on a team the D can go off. But when it’s a close game or they are playing a good team the D is a no show. It is usually like a 34-31 type of game, the O has to play lites out to pull out a win. When was the last time we won a game because of our D? The O didn’t show up Sunday and the D certainly was not capable of bailing them out! anybody remember the Denver playoff game in Buffalo during the Super Bowl years? Carlton Bailey picked off a pass for a td. The bills win the game 10-3 or something like that? That’sa good D bailing out the offense on a bad day. This current defense could do no such thing! if the offense don’t show up it’s a bad day at the office! No playmakers or no one put in position to make plays.

That massive contract doesn’t kick in till next year. The defense has fallen on its face in the playoffs the last three years. His contract is irrelevant to how the D played in the past, that is what people want Fraizer fired for, for how they played in the past not the future.

Indybillsfan was a good guy. Anybody see him on any boards?

I had a good laugh when the hits on their website plummeted after they got rid of the mb. I don’t think I have logged on to Buffalo bills.com since.

I would trade White and give that money to poyer. I don’t care what we get for white Just get his contract off the book. We got two good young corners last year.