Nihilarian

For what as decoys? I don't see a whole lot of production from either player from the start of this season to make that much difference. McCoy 3 games, 43 rushes for 146 yards, 0 TD's- receiving 7 rec for 83 yards, 1 TD. Watkins 3 games, 7 rec for 99 yards 1 TD. That's thru three entire games! Pretty meager stats from my view. Some players have those stats after one game. Tyrod Taylor playing in only his fourth start looked very shaky in the first half against the Giants, and he had only 36 passing yards the entire first half. The team had only 2 first downs, 78 total yards from scrimmage at that the half, 42 rushing yards, and 36 passing. Taylor kept hitting receivers three yards behind the first down marker, and they went no further. Missed catches, dropped balls, overthrows. Growing pains!! 17 penalties on Buffalo giving the Giants 7 first downs. Not the good lord nor the gods of football were smiling on Buffalo Sunday.

This!! Rex Ryan said he has never had a defense with this much talent, and yet the defense isn't playing anywhere near as good as last year. This years Bills defense is Ranked 22nd, and that's down from 30th because Manning kinda stinks. Still the defense against the pass is still ranked 30th. No Bills player has as many as two lousy sacks yet? The team only has 7 sacks so far, and the big four only Mario-1, Marcell-1, Hughes-1, Charles-1, Graham-1, Bradham-1, Robey-1. It sure as hell doesn't help to have the highest paid pass rushing defensive line players in the league dropping into pass coverage. Which in my view is completely absurd!! They should be rushing the passer each and every down, no question. Current Bills DC Dennis Thurman is stinking things up, and I'd rather see Schwartz running the defense at this point. There is far, far to much talent on that D line to get this lack of production.

Ever been to a Bills game when the Steelers are in town? They actually outnumber Bills fans even on the Bills side,

We all saw this coming My lord NOOOOO! Look at the difference the guy made in Buffalo. He would certainly improve the Phins defense

It really should have been a priority when the team had two rookie QB's and a guy who had made only one game start in his entire career in Thad Lewis back in 2012. But yea, if I'm not mistaken the Bills O line was ranked dead last or near that all season last year, and was the weakest area of the team. Doug Whaley had targeted an OT, and OG in free agency but they didn't sign with Buffalo. Glenn is in a contract year, and will probably leave because the Bills won't give him top money, and some other team will (see Andy Levitre) LG Richie Incognito is only signed for one year too. What gets me is that the Bills have the most expensive D line in the game, and it is floundering right now. The Bills FO hasn't put a high value on O line players since forever. They traded away an all pro LT in Jason Peters, let an above average LG walk in Andy Levitre, and then tried to replace him with bums. I don't think the answer is 5 rookies either as some may take years to develop. Like Miller is this year. Attacking free agency, and then signing quality talent is the way to go. Signing Incognito now would be smart, and signing Glenn now would also be smart. Both are worth keeping. That leave only 2-3 positions to upgrade.

The Bills simply don't have the talent on their O line to make a power run game work like Greg Roman had in SF, and three TE's isn't going to help that much if you don't have the horses on the line. When the Bills were in a clear running formation with 3 TE's the Giants stacked the box 5 on the line, and 8 in the box. The Bills run game was mostly ineffective 24 rushes for 55 yards= a 2.3 YPC avg. and it helps to have the receivers past the first down marker on 3rd down. This happened over and over where on 3rd down the pass was completed but the receiver was tackled 3 yards behind the LoS. Taylor's passes were off target a lot in the first half, and It looked like Eli Manning was doing more roll outs then Taylor. Pass interference on Bills =1st down for the NY Giants on their first series, and resulted in a FG. I can tell you that at least 7 NY Giants first downs were the result of penalties on the Bills. This is a huge factor in the loss False start on Cujo-personal foul on #55-illegal formation defense-holding defense Darby-flag on Duke Williams ST for going out of bounds on punt-pass interference offense on Clay after catching a for a first down-false start on Cujo on third and one FIRST HALF: The Bills had 42 rushing yards, 36 passing yards = 78 yards of offense(one turnover) in the first half losing 16-3. Bills with only 2 first downs to the Giants 12 first downs in the half. 3rd QTR: 7 first downs now 118 passing yards= 159 yards total All in all 17 penalties was just to much to overcome, as this killed drives, and called back two TD's

One thing Bills fans need to take into consideration is that the Giants are very used to playing against a running QB in their division in RG3, and have successfully shut him down. Look at all the running QB's and where they play. Seattle with Wilson, SF with Kaepernick, Wash with RG3, Carolina with Newton, and all in the NFC!! When Taylor took off running it didn't work very often, and especially in the red zone on 4th down. The Bills simply don't have the talent on their O line to make a power run game work like Greg Roman had in SF, and three TE's isn't going to help that much if you don't have the horses on the line. When the Bills were in a clear running formation with 3 TE's the Giants stacked the box 5 on the line, and 8 in the box. The Bills run game was mostly ineffective 24 rushes for 55 yards= a 2.3 YPC avg. and it helps to have the receivers past the first down marker on 3rd down. This happened over and over where on 3rd down the pass was completed but the receiver was tackled 3 yards behind the LoS. Taylor's passes were off target a lot in the first half, and It looked like Eli Manning was doing more roll outs then Taylor. FIRST HALF: The Bills had 42 rushing yards, 36 passing yards = 78 yards of offense(one turnover) in the first half losing 16-3. Bills with only 2 first downs to the Giants 12 first downs in the half. This is because the Bills are starting a QB who was playing in his fourth NFL start, and there will be growing pains.

NFN but I don't see how McCoy or Watkins could have helped stop the 17 penalties or the 7 first downs given to the Giants resulting from those penalties. It was Karlos Williams subbing for McCoy that did so well, and not the other way around. Karlos stunk because the offensive line stunk, and was mostly ineffective in run blocking and pass blocking. Then if that wasn't enough, you have the Bills DC sending the D linemen into coverage rather then rushing the passer. Sammy after three games has a total of 7 rec for 99 yards, 1 TD. McCoy after three games has 43 attempts for 146 yards. Neither was setting the league on fire!

things might be different if he was the only one. The #4 defense from last year is now ranked 30th, and only has 7 sacks. Mostly because the new DC would rather send his highly paid pass rushers into pass coverage I can tell you whats going on. This head coach isn't spending extra time or extra active players helping special teams this year, and it looks like he is just as bad as he was in his first season in Buffalo.

He even stated this will be his last job, and it probably will be as an NFL head coach. I think Bills fans need to realize that the Colts, Dolphins are not that good, and either is that Patriots defense. Those gimme games against Jacksonville, Tennessee are not looking so easy now. I can only imagine the Bengals will tear this team a new one. I gotta wonder if this team finishes 6-10 or 7-9 what will this new owner do?

While I agree that the penalties were ridiculous with 17, and those gave the Giants 7 first downs. I'm not yet sold that Marrone is a better HC then the big mouth just yet. Mostly because like Marrone was a supposed offensive brain with Ryan a great defensive mind, and both stunk it up in their respective back grounds. I mean, how on gods green earth do you send one of the highest paid defensive linemen in the league out into pass coverage? This is almost as stupid as George Edwards / Dave Wannstedts defenses, or as stupid as Nate Hacketts predictable runs up the middle or the same lame passes all the time. This team was undisciplined, and unprepared to play along with bad game plans. But then a playoff berth wasn't on the line against a bad 2-12 team either.

No, its worse then average. The stats say the Bills are 30th in total defense, and have only 6 sacks so far 31st pass defense. Wanna know which team was ranked 32nd in defense before this last game? The Giants! Not only is this defense below average. The inmates are running the asylum, as some genius keeps having some of the highest paid pass rushers in the NFL drop into pass coverage

On another note can we make Colton Schmidt president?

Yea, that is unacceptable to me. Sure they played hard, and tried hard but that doesn't excuse the freaking 17 penalties or the 7 first downs given to the Giants because there is no team discipline!!

at least 7 first downs or more given to the Giants by penalties on Buffalo!! 17 penalties on Buffalo is just downright ridiculous!! I don't know what part of this game is more of an embarrassment? The penalties! Or the lack of a run game when this team was supposed to lead the NFL in rushing! Or the defensive scheme that is dropping elite highly paid pass rushers into pass coverage! Or perhaps the HC and his big mouth saying after the game he is proud of his team http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/10/04/rex-im-proud-of-how-bills-played-on-sunday/

Asking an NFL player to do something he is not good at or even unable to do is the way to lose games. Dropping the defensive line players into pass coverage is completely idiotic when those four were such a terror last year, led the NFL in sacks, and no team wanted to face them. What is going on with Dennis Thurman and the defensive game plans?

This! Although it didn't look like a penalty to me. It took a TD off the score board and basically killed the Bills chance for a comeback. Still, it shouldn't have come to this.

This years offensive line isn't that much improved over last years line, save at LG.

Does anyone besides me miss Jim Schwartz? What is up with the D linemen who led the league in pass rushing last year dropping into pass coverage? Tyrod Taylor was playing in his 4th NFL game as the starting QB, and I have to ask what happened to the Buffalo run game? You know, the run game that was supposed to lead the NFL in rushing with a run game play book bigger then any other run game play book in the history of the NFL? 24 rushes for 55 yards = a 2.4 yards per rush is embarrassing. then playing from behind Buffalo had to throw 48 times Rex Ryan is starting to look like the Bills *hired the wrong guy.

Sad, but true

They also seemed to be unprepared on both sides of the ball. What happened to that #4 overall defense we saw last year?

Rex Ryan swearing at the refs, and then they started to call everything they could. How did that work out?

the upcoming games not looking so certain now.

no need for that penalty, 17 now! and it took away a TD

7 first downs for the Ginats by Bills penalties...