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I disagree. The FO remembers that the former Bills DC Mike Pettine was a Rex Ryan disciple who worked for the Jets as DC under Ryan before coming to Buffalo and he ran a one-gap 3-4 in 2013. I'm positive that the owners, Russ Brandon and Doug Whaley all thought they were getting another one-gap scheme coach much like Pettine was in Buffalo and like Wade Phillips or they simply wouldn't have hired Rex Ryan as HC. They didn't think they would need to retool the defense to fit Ryan's needs! It appears the man can't get anything other than his 3-4 to work and even then unless he has specific players it won't work. Remember his words that he had never had this much talent on a defense before. This was the reason why Ryan attempted to run Schwartz's wide nine and the 4-3 quite a bit but the majority of the time he ran a two-gap run-stopping scheme that hamstrung the high priced pass rushers on that vaunted Bills D-line from 2014. The Bills D- linemen were more suited for all out rushing the passer and Ryan had them running gap control and dropping into pass coverage. In effect, he simply screwed up the best defense the team has had in a decade. Now he has the team drafting different players to fit his antiquated 3-4 two-gap scheme that few NFL teams run and it's what got his brother fired in New Orleans for running. The thing is it takes no big change to the Bills roster to run a 3-4 one-gap except adding more linebackers. Jerry Hughes would be a perfect fit as would Mario if all he was asked to do is rush the passer, except he wasn't asked to rush the passer and instead was asked to cover two gaps!!

This whole thing looks like a joke and a dysfunctional Org to say the least. The wrong man was fired for sure as Roman didn't give up nearly 500 yards of offense to the NY Jets. The Bills DC should have been fired from what I saw. How is it that a supposed defensive guru only knows how to run one defensive scheme? How is Tyrod Taylor's development going to go when they start forcing him to make downfield throws in an attempt to open up the offense? This is still a 6th round pick we are talking about that clearly needs more on the field playing development. Now I can sorta see if people were upset that the run game stalled against the Ravens and Jets. But then it stalled in a few games last season too and the passing offense also stalled as a result in those games. What we saw this year was nothing really new. This is not a first round pick that only needed minimal development. It looks really lame to me to fire the best OC this team has had in years. I supposed everyone is forgetting that the 2015 Bills led the league in rushing, in big plays and finished that season 12th in points and 13th in yards and did that with basically a first year starting QB. You would need to go back to 2002 to better those stats and that was one year with Drew Bledsoe, Eric Moulds and Travis Henry. EDIT** Oh Yea, Buffalo has become the NFL’s Dysfunction Junction in recent days, with a new nugget emerging virtually every hour painting the team as a clown show. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/09/18/report-greg-roman-was-fired-right-after-posing-for-team-photo/ With the Bills again marred by injuries and suspensions, many quadrants of the organization have already gone into "survival mode," as one team source put it, trying to build the case with ownership as to why they aren't part of the problem. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bills-ownership-not-considering-other-staff-changes-after-greg-roman-firing/ Hmmm, I wonder who this could be referring to?

What's crazy is the Bills had a decent offense last season and were in the process of developing a rookie QB! Now this year the starting QB still hasn't even played a full season and was a 6th round pick. Does anyone really expect Taylor to turn into Tom Brady on is this halfway built team? So much for Tyrod's development!

This team had a shot to finish developing Tyrod Taylor all the way up until the owners fired the OC and now the new OC will force the QB to make throws and either he will sink or swim. Judging from Rex Ryan's past of ruining young QB's in Geno Smith, Mark Sanchez, I'd say the odds are pretty good that Taylor falls on his face this year.

This! These new owners should be making any decisions on the coaching staff during the season as that takes owners meddling to a new level and even Ralph Wilson was never that bad. He held his head coach accountable and allowed them to make the changes. The one large key to not gaining any continuity over the last 16 is this team has had no senior football man making the correct decisions on how to properly build a winning team. Oh sure the owner as team president stepped down for a few years and didn't like the direction so he fired Tom Donahoe. Ole Tom was the only team president to ever replace Ralph Wilson mostly because Wilson needed to stay president for the salary he took from the job and that was a big reason that owner was more concerned about the team making a profit over winning. When the late owner health started to decline he made the marketing / financial man CEO of the team and allowed him full control and that tells you why the football side has been so dysfunctional over the last six years. No senior football man running the org so the team keeps changing schemes and players to fit those schemes. Meanwhile, the current GM attempted to have the offense develop some rookie QB's with no QB coach, no veteran QB on the roster and with the very worst offensive line in the league in 2013 - 2014. It was joke who the GM kept attempting to replace a decent OG in Andy Levitre with. The O-line is still only half way built with very little quality depth. This GM has overpaid for three stars because he and his scouts can't find quality offensive talent in the draft at RB, TE and WR. With little or no quality talent behind those three. This team will continue to be a dysfunctional mess until these new owners take themselves and any other non-football men out of the football decisions and hire a team president of football operations that has some experience in building a winning franchise!

Jeez, I only hope this story isn't true. The last thing this team needs is meddling owners talking with players to determine what's happening on the field. Heck no! this stuff reminds me of the Jim Irsay, Bill Bidwell days of constant owner meddling and even Ralph Wilson was never this bad.

Yea well, when I see it happen then I'll believe it can happen. This is a run first offense and when the run game gets shut down the QB is then forced to make all the plays with his arm. Let's not forget that TT had very little preseason play time to knock off any rust and get his timing down. Taylor looked totally lost in that first game by dumping the ball off before he even scanned the field on some plays and neither the run game or passing game was working in that first game. It looked to me like the Ravens defense was forcing Tyrod to throw by taking away the run game. We saw this last year too when the offense couldn't get the run game working and the difference was Chris Hogan to get those first downs in the air and Karlos Williams banging out those big runs to help open up the run game. This year the offense failed to get the run game working so it all fell on Tyrod to make plays and he couldn't get it done until a long bomb and some broken plays in that Jets game. If this new OC can get the run game working first thing then I think he will get the passing offense working too. Arizona will probably do the same thing they saw the Ravens and Jets do in attempt to take away the run and forcing Tyrod to make plays with his arm! Should the Cards stop the Bills run game it could be another long day for the Bills defense.

This is exactly right! Remember that 3rd down and 22 deep pass that Carr completed to Andre Holmes for 51 yards in the 4th quarter that basically won the game for them. They just got incredibly lucky. What kills me is fans still want to rag on that 2014 #4 overall in total defense because Schwartz is no longer with the team and Wrex Ryan is... The Raider drives went like this, Punt, Punt, Punt, TD, Punt, FG, Punt, FG, FG, FG, Punt, Missed FG, end. The Bills drives went like this, TD, INT, Punt, Punt, Punt, Punt, Punt, FG, Punt, Punt, TD, Punt, INT, TD. Let's also not forget that the 2-12 Raiders team had the 30th defense in the NFL and Raider scrub DT's were plowing thru the Bills O-line like it was made of putty to tackle Bills RB's Fred and Spiller behind the line of scrimmage. That Buffalo Bills offense had 13 rushes for 13 yards and Spiller had 4 attempts for -4 yards. Meanwhile, Kyle Orton threw 49 times for 349 yards and 3 TD's, 2 INT's. Now, if any recall that Raider rookie linebacker Khalil Mack was almost always in Orton's face because RT Henderson couldn't block to save his life that day. But yeah, let's blame it on the defense for a 2 point loss. http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000447684/Week-16-Bills-vs-Raiders-highlights

Just recall I didn't refer to you in a derogatory sense and merely stated the truth.

It's what happens to two of the best CB's in the league when they need to stay in coverage with no help for 40 minutes a game. No pass rush after the bit tongue and no stops on third down. I can only wonder if this year's Bills defense will come close to how bad Rob Ryan's defense was in NO that got him fired.

Ole Miss 17 to 3 Alabama, Man, Chad looks good!

It's not the players at all IMO as the Bills have two of the very best DB's in the league when you have a decent pass rush on the opposing QB. You just can't leave these guy to hang out to dry all game and expect them to not give up some big plays after awhile as they tend to get... you know...tired. The time of possession was basically Jets 40 min to Bills 20 min and that Bills defense was on the field for 40 min. Rex Ryan's defense isn't all that complex it's just that Ryan tends to overcomplicate things by putting far too many variations and reads on their plate. It's like an OC who wants to run a 10'' thick playbook with 100 plays in it when the team only needs to learn around twenty-five to get by with. What we saw on the field this last week looked like the very same defense that Rob Ryan was fired in NO for running. Fitz is just a journeyman QB who had a good game so I can't even imagine what Brady or another elite QB would do to that defense. Probably set another Bills franchise worst in yards passing allowed. Let's not forget that mostly the very same players had the #4 defense in yards and points allowed in 2014. To me it's the bad coaches attempting to make an outdated scheme work.

He was doing the same things all offseason saying "it's a new year" things will change!

What I get a kick out of is a lot of Bills fans wanted Greg Roman as HC after last season and are now agreeing with his firing. What we saw the first two weeks of this season was nothing we hadn't seen in 2015 for stretches at a time during some games. There were games in which Tyrod went invisible in different quarters and eventually was able to pull himself out of a funk and start throwing it well and mostly because the run game was working. When the run game wasn't working well last year is was just like the first two games this year. Anyone else besides me remember that NY Giants game last year in which the Bills ran 24 times for 55 yards and only had a FG after three-quarters and then go one to finally get a TD in the fourth quarter. Tyrod was able to get on track a little bit last on in that game but it was too little too late. Firing Roman after two games was an act of desperation to deflect how bad the defense was against Gailey and Fitz and those two owned Rex & Rob.

The Bills as good as they were in rushing last year we also one of the very worst teams in the NFL in three downs and out.It was the big plays that saved them last year and made them look so good as they led the league in big plays and 31st in three and out percentage in 2015. So this offense we see this year is nothing new just missing Hogan who would be open for the first down pass and Williams who would break that long run. What I see happening this year is the offense is being stymied from being able to run because the defenses are focusing on stopping the run and making the QB throw more and Taylor unable to make plays with his arm so the offense stalls. So, as I see things it's just wrex getting rid of the guy who could replace him. Unless this new RB coach has some miracles up his sleeve I don't see much changing with him calling the plays.

Gonna be interesting to see if this new OC can actually get the offense and run game back on track like it was last year. Mostly the very same players with a few exceptions. From what Rex Ryan has stated he wants to see Watkins getting the ball more and the offense opened up by Tyrod throwing more downfield. We shall see, Arizona Sept 25th.

The man does make a few good points. More specifically the Bills defense allowed a massive amount of offense in on Thursday night football and the HC fires the OC the next day Do we Bills fans now trust these owners on any future hire they make? The league wanted them to hire a czar which would have been a wise move given their inexperience in running an NFL franchise and instead they were swayed by Russ Brandon, Doug Whaley into thinking that they had the chops to hire the right guy. Russ Brandon said, "you will know who to hire after you talk with all the candidates." And they were conned by the best con man out there. They got it all wrong in hiring a bad HC that was fired at his ls job for going 4-12. Remember those numbers because that might be what this team ends this season with! I can tell you what will happen next because it's happened before on Rex Ryan teams with young inexperienced QB's. Now that Tyrod had his one year of playing in a run first team this new OC at Ryan's behest will force Tyrod to start throwing downfield a whole lot more and I can only hazard that either he develops into a top QB very quickly or he is ruined like Geno and Sanchez. More interceptions, more sacks, more bad throws with ultimately a young QB with his confidence destroyed. This move does remind me of 2009 and Bills HC Dick Jauron firing Bills OC Turk Schonert two weeks before the opener only to see Jauron himself fired after 9 games.

It could be that Roman wasn't doing his best job and that's what Rex thought so he fired him. OTOH, This run first offense is predicated on being able to run the ball to open up the passing game to help out that inexperienced 2nd year starting QB. So, now coming into this year opposing teams realize that if they work to stuff the run and force the QB to beat them it causes major problems with this current run first offense. Let's face some facts here that the Ravens were able to shut down the Bills run game and Roman didn't have Tyrod running option plays probably for fear of getting him injured. The Jets were also able to shut down the Bills run game and the only reason the Bills moved the ball is because Tyrod made something out of nothing. Running the ball all game also helps the defense by keeping them on the bench and fresh rather than on the field all game and getting worn out at the end. Just on another note that Rex Ryan has been a QB killer in that both Geno Smith and Mark Sanchez started out looking okay and then when the offense wasn't producing enough points the young QB's were forced to try and carry the game themselves. I dunno, perhaps all young QB's should only be carried by the offense for a year or so and then be expected to win games with their arms. ***EDIT We should see pretty quickly if it was the game plan, the play calling or the lack of quality receivers behind Watkins and the only half good offensive line with scrubs as backups. Tyrod looked so jittery in that Ravens game in that he was dumping the ball off to his RB's before he even scanned the field. In this Jets game, it did look like he was waiting far too long for his receivers to break open on some plays. Nevertheless, the run game was far more ineffective in both games than the QB.

Well, there is a report out there that the Bills FO pressured Rex Ryan to fire Greg Roman...

So, let me get this straight. The defense tanks and allows Fitzpasspick 374 yards passing and almost 500 yards of total offense The run game completely stalls for two games and the Bills QB is then forced to try and carry the offense. The Bills QB needs to scramble to make plays because there is no run game to support him and the offense scores 31 points. So, the answer is to fire the OC and promote the RB coach Excuse me as I just don't see how promoting the coach from the weakest area of the team is the answer.

What really gets me with this move to fire the best OC this team has seen in 10 years is the fact that the one area of the team that fell on it's face in those two games was the run game. So, let's fire the OC and promote the RB coach Only in Buffalo...

The bigger question is who will be the next scapegoat when another offense puts up almost 500 yards on Ryan's defense?

Seriously, I can only think that nobody in the Bills front office actually watched the 2014 games or they would have seen how inept Rex Ryan was in his last year there. Only in Buffo does a new owner hire a head coach that was just fired after a 4-12 season.

Well, seriously. The offense didn't allow Fitz to throw for 374 yards or the Jets offense to have almost 500 yards of offense. Matt Forte rushing for 100 yards, 3 TD's The Bills defense was the worst part of that game last night and once Hughes went down the Bills had zero QB pressure

Rex is just covering his arse by firing the guy who would have been his replacement