Nihilarian

There is a difference between Bills and Dolphins and although both teams have beaten a bunch of bad teams along the way. The Dolphins beat the Steelers in Miami 30-15 and that was against Ben, Bell and they dominated both. The other difference is the Dolphins beat the Jets 2x and Buffalo was owned by the Jets in week two at Buffalo. Fitz throwing for 374 yards and Matt Forte rushing for 100 yards and 3 TD's. 493 yards of offense for the Jets that day. The stats say the Bills have the better defense and yet they were let down in several games by their defense, the Jets, Dolphins are games they should have won and the team is 9-5 instead of Miami. As I recall that Miami game the Dolphins looked to dominate both lines in that game in only allowing one sack and putting up 454 yards against Buffalo. There is more to it than luck. The guy hired to make the defense better only made it worse.

How did he look against the Browns when the run game is working and the defense is playing okay? Clay was the leading receiver with 7 rec for 72 yards, 1 TD. The bigger story is Taylor and his elusiveness just makes plays happen over and over when nothing and nobody is looking open. Watkins, Woods were invisible with only one catch each. Like I've said in other threads, it took Drew Brees two full years of playing before he got really good and I'm not saying that Taylor will ever be as good as Brees. It's just that QB's need playing experience and a talented offensive roster to meet their full expectations. Perhaps if Woods and Watkins stayed healthy and the team found a solid third, fourth receiver we might actually be able to see Tyrod Taylor's ceiling.

Matt Moore >>>TT too! 4 passing TD's against the Jets Miami at 9-5 has Buffalo and NE to play and could end up 10-6 or even 11-5 should the Patriots win home field and rest their players. Adam Gase >>> Rex Ryan

Romo will be bust! Why trade for a guy who was never solid in the playoffs and has been out injured most of the last two years.

I've changed my mind as the sooner this regime is gone the faster we all get a better look at Lynn as HC and Cardale Jones at QB. We need to see if Lynn can game plan to beat the Dolphins and Jones can throw over the middle with accuracy. Primarily because if either have a bad showing the team can hire a better HC and draft a QB.

Probably because the trade for Hughes was made by the idiot GM of the Colts who wanted the last first round pick of Bil Polian out of Indy. Whaley only answered the phone and offered a scrub LBer. Richie Incognito was all Rex Ryan who vouched for him to be brought in and Whaley had his chance the year previous (2014) with Erik Pears at RG who was the worst player in the league at RG. Incognito sat out that entire year because no team wanted him. Lorenzo Alexander again was all Rex Ryan who had wanted him from previous years with the Jets just like he had wanted Tyrod Taylor. It also wouldn't surprise me to hear that Rex Ryan or his brother Rob were the ones who identified Zack Brown as a player they wanted to be signed by Buffalo. How about the signing of LG Chris Williams for 5.5 mill guaranteed who only played a few games before being released or OG Colin Brown who replaced him then being released after 6 games. How about a fourth round pick for RB Bryce Brown who never amounted to anything in Buffalo. The Trade for WR Mike Williams who turned out to be useless or the dumping of WR Stevie Johnson because he didn't run precise routes for EJ. Allowing his rookie QB EJ to start behind one of the worst offensive lines in the league and go into the season with no QB coach or veteran QB on the roster to help guide his rookie QB through a rough first year. Not to mention that his OC was also a rookie in the NFL. How about lucking out that CJ Spiller didn't take that lucrative offer from Buffalo and opted to leave for New Orleans instead? How about Chip Kelly calling the Bills and offering RB LeSean McCoy to Buffalo in a trade? So far how is that big money for TE Charles Clay doing? Doug Whaley has made his share of mistakes so far and many fans give the guy far too much credit when in fact he is 29-32 over four years. It took Bill Polian only three years to go from 2-14 to 12-4.

I have no agenda here save wishing the Bills had drafted someone besides Watkins with that 2014 first pick and traded up to get Derek Carr in the second round. This FO stinks and the WR corps this year shows this. Pretty tough to gauge the starting QB when he has mostly scrubs to throw to all season. The Bills run game stalls during a game and suddenly the power run team turns into a pocket QB throwing team and expect the QB to bail them out. We all know that Tyrod Taylor is a very limited running QB who sometimes finds a big play with a deep ball now and then. This year not so much with a different OC and an injured WR corps. A sometimes turnstile at RT, RG. To me, the bigger problem with the team is the supposed good defense that was #10 in the league from beating bad teams and after they face the 10-2 Raiders and 8-5 Steelers the Bills defense is now 18th and 28th against the run! The team can't run the ball on good teams and look to the QB to bail them out and when he can't due to his limitations he gets all the blame. I see the bigger picture and you only see the QB.

Matt Moore looking like the QB the Bills should have acquired at some point.

It's going to take this team going into the crapper for any major changes in the FO. Think about the current situation and that Doug Whaley wanted Hue Jackman as HC. Now someone clearly has let slip they want to see Anthony Lynn as HC and Cardale Jones over the last three weeks (Whaley probably) and that isn't about to happen just yet. So, should Ryan win the next three there might not be any changes made! Should he lose one at some point and the team is out of playoff contention then I suspect we will see Lynn and Jones. Gonna be interesting because the two in current power don't want to hire someone they can't control or have a say over so it probably won't be someone really good.

Sorry to pee in your Cheerios BB. But alas, it looks like Whaley and Brandon are the only ones Terry Pegula is listening to these days. It was also reported that the new owners have cooled on the idea of hiring a czar or senior adviser at this time. Get ready for more seasons of mediocrity!

Let's set the record straight. http://www.espn.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/8523/bills-secretly-sit-down-with-cowher http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/03/report-cowher-had-stealth-meeting-with-bills/

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It's gonna be a tough sell for any solid HC to want to come to Buffalo with the way the org is structured. People talk and the others in the NFL knew all about Ralph Wilson and few wanted to work for him. People in the NFL have to know what happened with Marrone walking away (which is unheard of)and GM Doug Whaley not doing the hiring along with the new owners making the first head coach hire. Gonna be interesting if they fire Rex and then can't find someone else better. I'd be in for hiring Wade Phillips too.

Selling the team when it's 7-9 year after year is a lot easier than if the team had bottomed out like it has in the past. Plus, this fan base has such a rabid bunch of fans.and has been in such fear of losing the team to a different city the fans have kept the team here in Buffalo by buying season tickets and attending games. Not to mention some of the lowest ticket prices in the NFL have kept the fans buying tickets and attending games. Tailgating has become a fine art for the people of Buffalo. Then when the team finally had a winning season at 9-7 the season ticket sales jumped to the highest ever. The Buffalo Bills hasn't been that hard a sell since 1984-85 and back to back 2-14 seasons. After the 2009 season, someone in the Bills FO (cough, cough) let slip that Ralph Wilson would pay up to 10 mill per for the right head coach. After hearing that Mike Shanahan (who was already committed to the Redskins) Interviewed for the Job. It also got Bill Cowher to give a stealth interview in which he stated he would hire Chan Gailey as his OC, among other coaches. No way would RW pay that much but it gave an insight into the assistants Cowher would hire and Gailey ended up as the Bills head coach. The Bills are here to stay so the team had better start winning games to keep tickets sales going. If Rex stays it could get ugly next season unless something happens in the draft or free agency.

When you take a long hard look at the Buffalo Bills receiver corps this year I'd say the Bills are more in receiver Purgatory. Sammy Watkins played in only 13 games last year and had 1047 yards and 9 TD's. The player with the most TD's this year is Justin Hunter with 4 and he only has 8 rec for 109 yards on the season. Robert Woods has 43 receptions for 522 yards, 1 TD. Marquise Goodwin 24 receptions for 364, 3 TD's. Sammy Watkins has played injured in only 5 games this season and has 16 receptions for 235 yards, 1 TD. Charles Clay 12 games, 39 receptions for 375 yards, 1 TD! Six Bills receivers are currently on IR, Harvin, Powell, Easley, Listenbee, Annen, Gragg. In 2015 Chris Hogan only had 36 catches for 450 yards and 2 TD's but most of the passes he caught were for first downs. I can only imagine he would have been a big help to the receiving corps this year in Buffalo....had he stayed of course. Clay hasn't lived up to expectations. Woods has one really good game against Seattle 10 rec for 162 yards and then gets injured. I see the Patriots signed Malcolm Floyd and at least they will give him a solid look in 2017.

Some Bills fans go on a rampage here every time Brandon's name is shown in any kind of derogatory light and yet he really is the man behind the curtain running the show. Besides. Brandon has only been in any kind of real power since Marv Levy retired and Russ took over. What these new owners should have done first thing was to hire that football czar, senior football adviser or team president of football operations to right this listing ship of fools. Until a senior football man is hired not much will change.

Sadly, It honestly doesn't look good in that regard as Terry only listens to Brandon and Whaley. Terry Pegula was listening to Bill Polian and was thinking about that football czar and now that has evaporated like a water puddle on the sun,.

On the Rich Eisen radio show... "If Doug Whaley and some other people of the football operations side had gotten their way things would have changed awhile ago". Several people inside the org have been in the owner's ear talking to him about seeing someone other than TT at QB and let's see what Anthony Lynn can do with this team before the season ends. The owner would prefer to wait to see how things go while the team still has an ever so slight chance to make the playoffs. It's been Whaley that wanted the change at QB to see what the kid can do. As for 2017, it would take a remarkable turn of events on this team the next few weeks to see Rex Ryan return to the team next year.

I agree with most of this! Coaching is the major concern in that a better HC would have gotten a far better outcome the last two years. This HC was brought in to make use of all the stars on the defense and build a defense for the ages. Instead, that #4 overall defense was made middling with a bad scheme and the one best area of the team in getting pressure on opposing QB's went to last in the league and 31st in sacks! This supposed defensive guru hasn't won a game against a team with a winning QB the last two years save one, Brian Hoyer BFD. The Buffalo defense is currently ranked 17th, 28th against the run. This team was leading the NFL in sacks and had the leading sacker...all the way up until the defense plays against a good team. NO SACKS against the Raiders or Steelers! GM: Some Bills fans don't understand the dislike for the current man in charge of the Buffalo Bills roster and without question Doug Whaley is in charge of the Bills roster! I don't read here anyone even disputing this fact! Yet, this team has several positions on the team that were lacking depth prior to the season and now have become such weak areas that real excuses can be made as to why this team is failing to win games against the better teams. The Safety position: both starters, and backups both need serious upgrades. RT is a turnstile! The WR position: Bills fans just don't realize how badly this team needs upgrades at this position. To date the leading Buffalo Bills receiver with the most TD's is... Justin Hunter who has 8 rec for 109 yards, 4 TD's. Yes, that's yardage for the entire season! Second is Goodwin with 24 rec for 364 yards, 3 TD's. Woods 43 rec for 522 yards, 1 TD Clay with 39 rec for 335 yards, 1 TD. Watkins with 16 for 235 yards, 1 TD. Walter Powell (on IR) 14 for 122 yards, 0 TD Brandon Tate 8 rec for 117 yards, 0 TD Greg Salas with 4 rec for 89 yards, 1 TD Percy Harvin on IR after 2 games Chris Gragg on IR Marcus Easley on IR Take a long hard look at that list to see it's downright pathetic! Last year Sammy Watkins played in only 13 games and had 1047 yards and 9 TD's!! Bills fans fail to comprehend just how bad the current WR situation for Buffalo is in that their #1 WR has only played in 5 games and he was playing injured. Woods has played in 8 games and he also played injured. While we simply don't know how good Tyrod Taylor can be against the better defenses because he has yet to have a solid WR corps to throw to. Bills fans say they see WR's running wide open all over the field and Taylor doesn't see them. I don't know how long those players were open for but what I can say is when you have a WR corps as depleted as this one it is so darn easy for opponents to defend against it. Anyone else thinking that this team could have used a WR talent like Michael Floyd? Brandon: I could care less if the man stays on the financial side or leaves. I just want someone overseeing this franchise that actually knows NFL football and has experience in building a winning franchise! I also could care less if the man wants to sit in on football meetings as long as he has no influence on any football decision. To those that say he has no influence! Someone at OBD convinced these new owners that they didn't need Bill Polian or a football czar and that they "would know who to hire after they interviewed all the prospective candidates"!

This team needs help at so many positions and who exactly will evaluate the draft and free agent talent to determine what positions get upgraded? If it's the same as in years past... it's another wasted season.

The first priority is getting an actual, quality, experienced, winning NFL football man at the top of the org chart and allow him to make all the decisions on how to correctly fix this damaged franchise. There is more wrong with this franchise than just a new QB, HC, GM, vampire with his fangs in the owner's neck. These new owners have no clue how to properly run the football side of this franchise and neither does anyone else currently at OBD. I could go into a lengthy diatribe on why each of the four people that require replacement, but nothing really changes until Russ Brandon is finally no longer anywhere near anything to do with the football side of this franchise. To the Bills fans who have an agenda stating that Brandon has not or is not involved in the football side when the man is even in the Bills cut room on the phone to free agent players. The man is and has been in the meeting room in every football discussion since Marv Levy retired in 2007. So many years of losing and because there was no really man in charge of football operations the team had to settle for the baseball, marketing guy involved in every decision. The entire football side of this organization needs to be analyzed by someone with actual football knowledge. The "doctors" and medical staff that give their okay to players with sometimes a long injury history that get signed by the team and get injured again. Percy Harvin, Chris Williams ring a bell? The draft picks that require surgery. I don't trust the Buffalo Bills medical staff to trim toenails. The Buffalo Bill's doctors used to be brilliant like with Thurman Thomas and his suspect knees, bad ankles, Jim kelly and his shoulder separation in college that some doctors said he would never have full throwing arm motion again. The training staff must be revamped as this team used to have minimal injuries and be so fit and conditioned that they could go down to Florida in 98-degree heat and outplay the Dolphins. Rusty Jones where have you gone... I know, I know to the Bears in 2005 and retirement in 2013. (curse you Mike Mularkey) This NFL franchise really is in total disarray to even think about hiring a HC that just went 4-12 and had been in a four-year decline, as the man came in and ruined the one best area of the team he was supposed to be good in. Or keeping a GM that trades away two first round picks for a glass WR when there is no franchise QB on the roster. A GM that attempts to start a rookie QB behind the very worst offensive line in the league and allows a rookie OC,no QB coach or veteran QB to help that rookie. They all gotta go!

What fans need to remember is that Cutler has had only two winning seasons in his 11-year career and need to remember the talent he had around him on some of those teams.Brandon Marshall, Martellus Bennett, Matte Forte, Earl Bennett, Devin Hester, Alshon Jeffery all sound familiar? It doesn't get better in Buffalo and yet very limited success with that talent. Me, I'd rather kick the tires on Cardale Jones or draft a QB over a retread like Cutler. In all honesty, if Rex stays or goes it's now time to draft for the defense again, S/CB/DT to replace Aaron Williams, Stephon Gilmore, Kyle Williams. Kinda sucks 2015 was mired by the Watkins trade as the team had no 1st or 4th pick, and 2016 the first three picks were to upgrade Ryan's 3-4 defense.

From what I can gather these new owners are in a bubble and listen to Rex, Doug, and Russ quite a bit rather than being heavily involved and forming their own opinions. They still like Rex and don't see why the majority of the fans no longer like him. My take on this inside leak that said Rex might be fired and Tyrod benched had an agenda to show Kim Pegula what the Bills fan base is thinking, feeling about the team. Anyone else besides me notice that the team had a PC called for 4:40 on Monday only to announce that Tyrod would keep his starting job and at that point in time Kim Pegula let it be known that she would be on twitter talking with fans over the situation. Just my 2 cents. Rex Ryan will probably win the next three games and retain his job ...for another abysmal season in Buffalo...

The Bills play three teams with bad QB's and the one team that could really blow Buffalo out of the playoff race had their winning QB go out with an injury. Rex knows he stands a good chance to keep his job with a 9-7 finish as it is an improvement over 8-8. What Rex doesn't realize is that all three teams will now try and stuff the run and force Tyrod to beat them with his arm. Then they will attempt to run the ball on the Bills as Ryan switches to a two-gap run stopping defense...only he had better hope that none of those three QB's get a hot hand.

What Ryan understands is his team can beat losing QB's and the Bills next three games are going to get the stats to look better because of it. The Bills will probably finish 9-7 because they can beat the Browns, Dolphins, and Jets. They will still play like **** against good QB's and lose to them so it's only going to prolong the inevitable of him getting before this team makes the playoffs. Rex and Rob stay another year, draft for the defense and have another losing season unless the Bills play 16 games against losing QB's next year.